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Philippine Navy ship RPS Rajah Soliman
« on: October 29, 2004, 09:28:34 PM »
The USS Bowers was a special kind of Destroyer Escort called the Crosley Class High-speed Transport. Basically, it was a dual function ship serving both as a Destroyer escort and as a small transport ship moving at a high speed of 24 knots. The USS Bowers was transferred in 1961 to the Philippine Navy and renamed the RPS Rajah Soliman. unfortunately, she sank during a storm in eatern Luzon (sayang!!!) I wonder if a modern version can be built by Philippine shipyards because such a dual function ship is very practical for a poor nation like the Philippines. Imagine a ship that can transport troops and yet conduct Offshore patrol. see data below:


Displacement 1,400 t.
Length 306' (ovl)
Beam 36' 10"
Draft 13' 6" (max)
Speed 24 kt.
Range 6,000 nautical miles at 12 kts.
Ship crew: 186
Armament 1 5"/38 dual purpose gun mount, 3 twin 40mm gun mounts, 8 single 20mm gun mounts, 2 depth charge tracks
Cargo capacity: 4 LCVP landing craft, 6 1/4 ton trucks, 2 1 ton trucks, 4 ammunition carts, 4 pack howitzers, Storage, Ammunition 6,000 cu. ft., General Cargo 3,500 cu. ft., Gasoline 1,000 cu. ft., and  Troop Capacity of 12 Officers, 150 Enlisted men
Propulsion 2 GE Turbines, (turbo-electric drive), 2 boilers, 2 shafts, 12,000 Shaft horsepower

see photos and more specs at:

http://www.navsource.org/archives/10/04040.htm

http://warships.web4u.cz/lode.php?language=E&stat=USA&typ=APD&trida=Charles+Lawrence

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Philippine Navy ship RPS Rajah Soliman
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2004, 02:31:13 PM »
Nice! It would be practical for our navy. Land marines and provide fire support at the same time.

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Re: Philippine Navy ship RPS Rajah Soliman
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2010, 07:22:46 PM »
Too bad the pictures no longer exist based on the links provided
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Re: Philippine Navy ship RPS Rajah Soliman
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2010, 02:26:26 PM »
Some years back, I saw a white ghost docked at Fort San Felipe. This could be this ship, there was no bow number nor signs of what it is.
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Re: Philippine Navy ship RPS Rajah Soliman
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2010, 12:34:31 PM »
Some years back, I saw a white ghost docked at Fort San Felipe. This could be this ship, there was no bow number nor signs of what it is.

A ghost ship? :angel:
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Re: Philippine Navy ship RPS Rajah Soliman
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2010, 09:49:52 PM »
The USS Bowers was a special kind of Destroyer Escort called the Crosley Class High-speed Transport. Basically, it was a dual function ship serving both as a Destroyer escort and as a small transport ship moving at a high speed of 24 knots. The USS Bowers was transferred in 1961 to the Philippine Navy and renamed the RPS Rajah Soliman. unfortunately, she sank during a storm in eatern Luzon (sayang!!!) I wonder if a modern version can be built by Philippine shipyards because such a dual function ship is very practical for a poor nation like the Philippines. Imagine a ship that can transport troops and yet conduct Offshore patrol. see data below:


Displacement 1,400 t.
Length 306' (ovl)
Beam 36' 10"
Draft 13' 6" (max)
Speed 24 kt.
Range 6,000 nautical miles at 12 kts.
Ship crew: 186
Armament 1 5"/38 dual purpose gun mount, 3 twin 40mm gun mounts, 8 single 20mm gun mounts, 2 depth charge tracks
Cargo capacity: 4 LCVP landing craft, 6 1/4 ton trucks, 2 1 ton trucks, 4 ammunition carts, 4 pack howitzers, Storage, Ammunition 6,000 cu. ft., General Cargo 3,500 cu. ft., Gasoline 1,000 cu. ft., and  Troop Capacity of 12 Officers, 150 Enlisted men
Propulsion 2 GE Turbines, (turbo-electric drive), 2 boilers, 2 shafts, 12,000 Shaft horsepower

see photos and more specs at:

http://www.navsource.org/archives/10/04040.htm

http://warships.web4u.cz/lode.php?language=E&stat=USA&typ=APD&trida=Charles+Lawrence

Correction about the DE-637/APD 40 - USS Bowers or RPS Rajah Soliman information

DE-637/APD 40 - USS Bowers belongs to another class of High Speed Transport which is the CHARLES LAWRENCE CLASS.These ships were converted from Buckley class destroyer escorts. Some of these ships were completed as destroyer escorts (like the USS Bowers)and some were converted while building so they were commissioned as high speed transports.

http://www.navsource.org/archives/10/04/04040.htm
http://www.uboat.net/allies/warships/class/510.html

CROSLEY CLASS High-speed Transport  are Rudderow class destroyer escorts converted to high speed transports during construction. 50 Ships on this class
http://www.uboat.net/allies/warships/class/511.html

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Re: Philippine Navy ship RPS Rajah Soliman
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2010, 03:53:51 PM »
…The Filipino, it seems, has lost his soul, his dignity, and his courage. We have come upon a phase of our history when ideals are only a veneer for greed and power, (in public and private affairs) when devotion to duty and dedication to a public trust are to be weighted at all times against private advantages and personal gain, and when loyalties can be traded. …Our government is in the iron grip of venality, its treasury is barren, its resources are wasted, its civil service is slothful and indifferent, its armed forces demoralized and its councils sterile., We are in crisis...

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Re: Philippine Navy ship RPS Rajah Soliman
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2010, 10:07:24 PM »
Please add the source of the photo Mr. S
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Re: Philippine Navy ship RPS Rajah Soliman
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2010, 03:34:53 AM »
Please add the source of the photo Mr. S

http://www.navsource.org/archives/10/04/04040.htm

http://www.navsource.org/archives/10/04/100404004.jpg



Ex Bowers (APD-40) in Mississippi ready to become the Philippine ship RPS Rajah Soliman (D-66). US Navy photo from "All Hands" magazine September 1961

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OT but The Rajah Soliman was the Flagship of the Navy when she sunk in 1964, Datu Kalantiaw was also the Flagship of the Navy when she sunk in 1981. Both were done in by Typhoons.

http://my-memoirs.yolasite.com/blog/rps-rajah-soliman-de-66-conflicting-dates-on-sinking
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…The Filipino, it seems, has lost his soul, his dignity, and his courage. We have come upon a phase of our history when ideals are only a veneer for greed and power, (in public and private affairs) when devotion to duty and dedication to a public trust are to be weighted at all times against private advantages and personal gain, and when loyalties can be traded. …Our government is in the iron grip of venality, its treasury is barren, its resources are wasted, its civil service is slothful and indifferent, its armed forces demoralized and its councils sterile., We are in crisis...

President Ferdinand Edralin Marcos

"Taking into account the disadvantages they have to fight against in terms of arms, equipment and military discipline, without artillery, short of ammunition, powder inferior, shells reloaded until they are defective, they are the bravest men I have ever seen...

General Henry W. Lawton on the Filipino Soldier

"Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it"

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Re: Philippine Navy ship RPS Rajah Soliman
« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2010, 10:17:30 PM »
Thanks Mr. S.  :beer:
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Re: Philippine Navy ship RPS Rajah Soliman
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2010, 12:21:34 AM »


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« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2010, 10:58:39 AM »
Need clarification:

Here's an old photo of a PN Warship that according to horge was the Rajah Soliman. When was it renumbered?

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Re: Philippine Navy ship RPS Rajah Soliman
« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2010, 03:40:11 PM »
Photo is of the USS Bowers (APD-40) circa 1953  which was to become the Rajah Soliman in 1960.   

http://www.navsource.org/archives/10/04/100404005.jpg
USS Bowers (APD-40) at anchor, circa 1953, location unknown.    
…The Filipino, it seems, has lost his soul, his dignity, and his courage. We have come upon a phase of our history when ideals are only a veneer for greed and power, (in public and private affairs) when devotion to duty and dedication to a public trust are to be weighted at all times against private advantages and personal gain, and when loyalties can be traded. …Our government is in the iron grip of venality, its treasury is barren, its resources are wasted, its civil service is slothful and indifferent, its armed forces demoralized and its councils sterile., We are in crisis...

President Ferdinand Edralin Marcos

"Taking into account the disadvantages they have to fight against in terms of arms, equipment and military discipline, without artillery, short of ammunition, powder inferior, shells reloaded until they are defective, they are the bravest men I have ever seen...

General Henry W. Lawton on the Filipino Soldier

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Re: Philippine Navy ship RPS Rajah Soliman
« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2011, 03:53:03 AM »
USS Bowers (APD-50) was transferred via Military Assistance Program (MAP) on Apr 21, 1961 and became RPS Rajah Soliman with pennant number D-66.  She was fitted as a command / flagship.

OT but The Rajah Soliman was the Flagship of the Navy when she sunk in 1964, Datu Kalantiaw was also the Flagship of the Navy when she sunk in 1981. Both were done in by Typhoons.

http://my-memoirs.yolasite.com/blog/rps-rajah-soliman-de-66-conflicting-dates-on-sinking

This information is confirmed on Jane's Fighting Ship.  D-66 sunk in Bataan National Shipyard in June 1964. ... sad -- only three years plus of service for the Philippines.

The wreck was salvaged between Dec 19641- Jan 1965, by USN salvage ships -- USS Bolster (ARS-38)2and USS Grasp (ARS-24), a tug, plus a couple of lift crafts leased from the Royal Navy. 

* 1- http://www.navsource.org/archives/10/04/tn/100404006.gif
* 2- http://www.marad.dot.gov/documents/Bolster_NHPA_History.pdf (Pg. 3)
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