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Re: BRP Dagupan City (LC-551) - Frank Besson class
« Reply #60 on: June 07, 2011, 08:35:20 PM »
We should upgrate our Logistic Support Vessel BRP Dagupan to helicopter carrier variant to accomodate 3 Huey II Gunship Helicopters or MG 520 attack helicopter  and deploy it to the Spratlys Islands to support our external defense mission there together with BRP Gregorio Del Pilar and BRP Emilo Jacinto to form Task Force Spratlys. It will be easier to do this because the PN and PAF had already experience in Interoperability exercise DAGIT yearly in Sangley Naval Station.

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Re: BRP Dagupan City (LC-551) - Frank Besson class
« Reply #61 on: June 21, 2011, 10:15:20 PM »
From: PhilGEPS

Reference Number     1519227
Procuring Entity     AFP - BIDS AND AWARDS COMMITTEE
Title     Dry-docking & Other Related Repairs of BRP DAGUPAN CITY (LC551)
Solicitation Number:     GHQ BAC1-PB-146-PN-11
Trade Agreement:     Implementing Rules and Regulations
Procurement Mode:     Public Bidding
Classification:     Goods
Category:     General Repair and Maintenance Services
Approved Budget for the Contract:     PHP 24,500,000.00
Delivery Period:     90 Day/s
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Re: BRP Dagupan City (LC-551) - Frank Besson class
« Reply #62 on: June 21, 2011, 10:50:23 PM »
We should upgrate our Logistic Support Vessel BRP Dagupan to helicopter carrier variant to accomodate 3 Huey II Gunship Helicopters or MG 520 attack helicopter  and deploy it to the Spratlys Islands to support our external defense mission there together with BRP Gregorio Del Pilar and BRP Emilo Jacinto to form Task Force Spratlys. It will be easier to do this because the PN and PAF had already experience in Interoperability exercise DAGIT yearly in Sangley Naval Station.

There is already an airstrip in Pag-asa island.
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Re: BRP Dagupan City (LC-551) - Frank Besson class
« Reply #63 on: July 17, 2011, 06:16:57 AM »
43rd IB returns to 8ID, its mother unit from an almost 3-year deployment (2008-2011) in Lanao Norte. 3LAB of LAD was also brought down from Northern Luzon to become part of 2nd Mech Brigade deployed in Lanao...





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Re: BRP Dagupan City (LC-551) - Frank Besson class
« Reply #64 on: July 27, 2011, 07:40:07 AM »
Re-bidding

From: PhilGEPS

Reference Number     1519227
Procuring Entity     AFP - BIDS AND AWARDS COMMITTEE
Title     Dry-docking & Other Related Repairs of BRP DAGUPAN CITY (LC551)
Solicitation Number:     GHQ BAC1-PB-146-PN-11
Trade Agreement:     Implementing Rules and Regulations
Procurement Mode:     Public Bidding
Classification:     Goods
Category:     General Repair and Maintenance Services
Approved Budget for the Contract:     PHP 24,500,000.00
Delivery Period:     90 Day/s

From: PhilGEPS

Reference Number   1546043
Procuring Entity   AFP - BIDS AND AWARDS COMMITTEE
Title   Rebidding for the Drydocking and Other Related Repairs of BRP DAGUPAN CITY (LC551)
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Solicitation Number   GHQ BAC1-PB-146-PN-11
Trade Agreement   International / Executive Agreement
Procurement Mode   Public Bidding
Classification   Goods
Category   General Repair and Maintenance Services
Estimated Budget for the Contract   PHP 24,500,000.00
Delivery Period   120 Day/s
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Re: BRP Dagupan City (LC-551) - Frank Besson class
« Reply #65 on: August 16, 2011, 12:58:53 AM »
Off to Zamboanga
Photo by Ali Vicoy
Manila Bulletin, Wednesday, August 10, 2011

http://navytoday.blogspot.com/2011/08/off-to-zamboanga.html

Members of the 6th Marine Battalion wave at the crowd after they boarded the BRP Dagupan LC551 following their send-off ceremony to Zamboanga, at the Philippine Navy headquarters in Manila yesterday Aug.9, 2011. The soldiers will undergo training in Sulu.
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Re: BRP Dagupan City (LC-551) - Frank Besson class
« Reply #67 on: October 12, 2011, 07:45:58 PM »
During the send off for the 3LAB

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Re: BRP Dagupan City (LC-551) - Frank Besson class
« Reply #68 on: December 20, 2011, 04:59:14 PM »
MANILA, Philippines - Instead of toys, clothes and the usual items people receive during the holidays, the residents of Iligan and Cagayan de Oro cities will receive coffins on Christmas Eve.

As early as 6 a.m. today, volunteers and Philippine Navy personnel started loading 500 white caskets donated by local government units in Pampanga province to the
BRP Dagupan.

http://www.philstar.com/nation/article.aspx?publicationsubcategoryid=63&articleid=760398



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…The Filipino, it seems, has lost his soul, his dignity, and his courage. We have come upon a phase of our history when ideals are only a veneer for greed and power, (in public and private affairs) when devotion to duty and dedication to a public trust are to be weighted at all times against private advantages and personal gain, and when loyalties can be traded. …Our government is in the iron grip of venality, its treasury is barren, its resources are wasted, its civil service is slothful and indifferent, its armed forces demoralized and its councils sterile., We are in crisis...

President Ferdinand Edralin Marcos

"Taking into account the disadvantages they have to fight against in terms of arms, equipment and military discipline, without artillery, short of ammunition, powder inferior, shells reloaded until they are defective, they are the bravest men I have ever seen...

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Re: BRP Dagupan City (LC-551) - Frank Besson class
« Reply #70 on: December 21, 2011, 02:15:19 AM »
MANILA, Philippines - Instead of toys, clothes and the usual items people receive during the holidays, the residents of Iligan and Cagayan de Oro cities will receive coffins on Christmas Eve.

As early as 6 a.m. today, volunteers and Philippine Navy personnel started loading 500 white caskets donated by local government units in Pampanga province to the
BRP Dagupan.

http://www.philstar.com/nation/article.aspx?publicationsubcategoryid=63&articleid=760398


a little OT but since my training is in logistics, im just trying to determine if government can actually save non-combat related logistic run to private sector.

im wondering whats the full load of BRP Dagupan for this trip and whats the cost?

a Full Container Load (FCL) to Cagayan averages P25,000-30,000/TEU and its faster at 18-20 knots.  transit time is about 35 hours.

if the NDRCC has coordinated with shipping lines, they can actually get a free ride.

NN+ATS & 2GOoffered free transfer of relief goods to Cagayan & Iligan for free... they have 4x a week trip to CDO via 3 ropax & 1 freighter... the ropax are travelling average of 18-20 knots... transit time is about 35 hours including port stay in Cebu.

since they have the frequency (4x a week), some of the stuff can leave for CDO earlier instead of waiting for LC-551 to get the full load.

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« Last Edit: December 21, 2011, 04:05:32 AM by firstknight »

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Re: BRP Dagupan City (LC-551) - Frank Besson class
« Reply #71 on: December 21, 2011, 03:44:51 AM »
Wow! 35 hours, with this rate them aid may not be enough. I hope the PN would request for faster logistics ships, ones that could travel 30-35 knots and hopefully cut the travel time for the aid. Hopefully newer navy ships will have at least 35-40 knots capability
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Re: BRP Dagupan City (LC-551) - Frank Besson class
« Reply #72 on: December 21, 2011, 04:07:08 AM »
Wow! 35 hours, with this rate them aid may not be enough. I hope the PN would request for faster logistics ships, ones that could travel 30-35 knots and hopefully cut the travel time for the aid. Hopefully newer navy ships will have at least 35-40 knots capability

LC-551 was quoted with a speed of 12-14 knots only... transit time MNL-CDO was at 60 hours (if i heard it correctly)


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Re: BRP Dagupan City (LC-551) - Frank Besson class
« Reply #73 on: December 21, 2011, 11:54:21 AM »
Wow! 35 hours, with this rate them aid may not be enough. I hope the PN would request for faster logistics ships, ones that could travel 30-35 knots and hopefully cut the travel time for the aid. Hopefully newer navy ships will have at least 35-40 knots capability

Reality check please... The fastest cargo ships in the world (Algol/Sea-Land Class) run at 33 knots. Most logistics vessels run at less than 16 knots sustained, mainly due to the economics of propelling a large vessel at high speeds.

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Re: BRP Dagupan City (LC-551) - Frank Besson class
« Reply #74 on: December 21, 2011, 12:03:52 PM »
Wow Mr.F , you are still thinking of the expenses when constituents of GRP are direly need some help, Relief operations of GRP/DND/AFP can contribute some gains in ISO... Remember ISO is not only for armed conflict,.. If those people didn't see any help from the government and you know the Neps are expert on exploiting this kind of scenario, next time you will see monument of Ka Rosal Vinegar in the town...  :jeez:
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