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BRP Sierra Madre (LT-57)
« on: June 03, 2009, 06:34:48 PM »
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It's the Sierra Madre Sir A.  LT-57

http://74.125.153.132/search?q=cache:Zxc764t9F6cJ:www.csis.org/media/csis/pubs/9901qchina_seasia.pdf+Lt-57+Sierra+madre&cd=8&hl=en&ct=clnk

Sino-Philippine Relations Worsen

Sino-Philippine relations were further strained by other incidents. On 9 May the Philippine naval ship BRP Sierra Madre (LT 57) ran aground on a reef near Second Thomas Shoal. Six days later it was reportedly approached by two Chinese frigates that offered no assistance but allegedly trained their guns on the Sierra Madre before departing. This incident incensed Filipino naval officials who termed the Chinese behavior a “hostile act.”
« Last Edit: June 03, 2009, 06:45:12 PM by Adroth »
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Re: BRP Sierra Madre (LT-57)
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2009, 08:25:06 PM »
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Sino-Philippine Relations Worsen

Sino-Philippine relations were further strained by other incidents. On 9 May the Philippine naval ship BRP Sierra Madre (LT 57) ran aground on a reef near Second Thomas Shoal. Six days later it was reportedly approached by two Chinese frigates that offered no assistance but allegedly trained their guns on the Sierra Madre before departing. This incident incensed Filipino naval officials who termed the Chinese behavior a “hostile act.”


If the Chinese actions against the Vietnamese are any indication - all measures must be taken to protect PN personnel. Also, ANY Chinese action should be video recorder.
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Re: BRP Sierra Madre (LT-57)
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2009, 07:01:46 AM »
Is this news new or old? Its been sometime that LT-57 has been grounded.

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Re: BRP Sierra Madre (LT-57)
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2009, 02:24:01 PM »
Roger that . . . this is a very old bit of news. Circa mid-90s.
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Re: BRP Sierra Madre (LT-57)
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2011, 12:04:21 PM »
The Navy permitted this video, so we're posting it here:

http://youtu.be/AhDDzaEmR0w
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Re: BRP Sierra Madre (LT-57)
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2011, 02:03:34 PM »
maybe we should send and ground a newer LST there. Those sailors are living on extremely dangerous conditions.  That is if our government does not want to spend to build real structures there. kawawa those soldiers staking their lives guarding our sovereignty. tsk tsk. I really found it disturbing. Something should be done real soon for those soldiers!
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Re: BRP Sierra Madre (LT-57)
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2012, 10:35:22 PM »
EDITORIAL - Pnoy should remove BRP Sierra Madre
(The Freeman) Updated July 03, 2012 12:00 AM

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The great temptation had been to call the ship a derelict. But technically it is not. For a derelict is invariably defined as something already abandoned. And despite what the photograph suggests, the BRP Sierra Madre is far from abandoned.

On the contrary, and as incredible as it may seem, the rusty old hulk is the forward base of the Philippine Navy in the Spratlys. A detachment from the Philippine Navy has holed out in tetanus trap to project and protect our national interests in that disputed chain.

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It is a betrayal of this old ship’s honor to display it before the whole world as a big fat joke.

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Re: BRP Sierra Madre (LT-57)
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2012, 01:49:41 AM »
EDITORIAL - Pnoy should remove BRP Sierra Madre
(The Freeman) Updated July 03, 2012 12:00 AM

Photos can be found here @ BRP Sierra Madre Facebook Page
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Re: BRP Sierra Madre (LT-57)
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2012, 02:09:53 AM »
Remove? then what?

I'm not even surprised that the editor did not even give suggestions on possible replacement for us to be able to keep an outpost there.

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It is a betrayal of this old ship’s honor to display it before the whole world as a big fat joke.

That's the only reason he can come up with? The country has been a joke and thats the least of our problems. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that we are supposed to just let it rot.

Thinking about it, since most of the structures has been corroded. Would it be easier to build something sturdier inside the Sierra Madre while it still offers concealment from prying eyes and protection from the elements? Can the existing structure or part of it be used as a "mold" for concrete and we might have something similar to Fort Drum (the one in the PHL not the one in the US).

Anyway, there are already a couple of threads in this forum regarding prefab construction and has been discussed for years.
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Re: BRP Sierra Madre (LT-57)
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2012, 04:50:25 PM »
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Can the existing structure or part of it be used as a "mold" for concrete and we might have something similar to Fort Drum (the one in the PHL not the one in the US).

Not a bad idea sir, ballast it with cement and boulder rock plus fortification.

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Re: BRP Sierra Madre (LT-57)
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2013, 06:41:41 AM »
An update with a repost about the BRP Sierra Madre: Would it be a bit extreme to call this grounded ship a the LAST LINE of defense? The last line, IMO, would be if an invader actually got to mainland Luzon, etc.

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Grounded Ship is Philippines' last line of defense

BY Cecil Morella, Agence France-Presse
05/23/2013

MANILA, Philippines - A handful of marines living on a World War II-era ship that is grounded on a remote, tiny reef is the Philippines' last line of defense against China's efforts to control most of the South China Sea.
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"Their lives are very hard... but they are marines. They are used to that kind of thing," said the retired general, former head of military forces in the western Philippines that has jurisdiction over the area.

"There is no ground, they live on a grounded ship. They depend only on supplies that are delivered to them on logistics runs."

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Neither Sabban nor defense department spokesman Peter Galvez would confirm to AFP the troops' exact numbers, nor their weaponry.

However Galvez said the grounded vessel produced its own electricity generated from its fuel-powered engine, giving the shoal garrison access to indoor entertainment, including movies and video games.

"It's still a functioning ship. It's just considered a ship in distress," Galvez told AFP.

Satellite phones also keep them in contact with their families during tours of duty, which last between three and six months, according to Sabban.

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Re: BRP Sierra Madre (LT-57)
« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2013, 10:39:58 AM »

 they should pour cement on the ships bowels and make it a fortified Naval station, like a miniature  Fort Drum (El Fraile Island)

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Re: BRP Sierra Madre (LT-57)
« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2014, 04:50:37 PM »

BRP Sierra Madre set to be repaired (manilastandardtoday.com)
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The official, who asked not to be identified for lack of authority to speak on the matter, said the Sierra Madre (PS-57), a tank landing ship, needs immediate repair because it is already falling apart although it houses several Marines who serve as security at the shoal.

“There is no plan to put up any structures in Ayungin Shoal,” the official said. “What we are doing there is conducting repairs inside the ship to keep it from disintegrating.”

see also:
A Game of Shark and Minnow
Gaming the Sierra madre
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Re: BRP Sierra Madre (LT-57)
« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2014, 10:53:47 PM »
Many Philippine Marine soldiers received commendations for doing their tours on the BRP Sierra Madre.
Maybe its time our C-in-C and the PN give her the recognition as a true warrior.
She received a U.S. battle star for World War 2 service
She earned 9 battle stars, 2 U.S. Presidential Unit Citation, and 3 U.S. Navy Commendation for Vietnam War.
She is proud to serve as gallant "Landing Ship, Tank",
perpetually beached to serve as a prong of Neptune's spear and keeping the enemy at bay.
She is a wounded soldier who wants to be left behind on the beach to finish the fight to the end.

We are so proud of you, LT 57, BRP Sierra Madre!