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Now the Indonesians are saying that 10 of the rifles was a legit order from a Philippine shooting group and the rest were bound for Mali.  If this is true then who forgot to declare and file the papers to our customs.  Oh and they are having a fiasco there because their newspapers picked up on the story and are now asking "why are we making Israeli weapons"  hahahahaha
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MP demands probe on Pindad-made weapons in Philippines


Sunday, August 30, 2009 05:29 WIB | National | | Viewed 125 time(s)
Jakarta (ANTARA News) - A lawmaker urged the government Saturday to probe the alleged seizure by the Philippine customs authorities of tens of weapons made by Indonesian arms industry PT Pindad.

"It (the case) must be investigated," Yusron Ihza Mahendra, a member of the House of Representatives` Commission for defense, information and foreign affairs, said at a discussion here.

All relevant agencies, including the Defence Ministry, the State Enterprises Ministry, the Trade Ministry, the Industry Ministry and the State Audit Board must coordinate in investigating the case, he said.

"The probe is necessary to shed light on whether or not the arms shipment is legal," he said.

He said the Philippines might not question the arms shipment if PT Pindad had complete documents. "How could they (the Philippines) declare their ordered arms illegal?" he asked.

Last Thursday, Philippine customs officers detained Panama-registered cargo ship Capt Ufuk docking off the Mariveles coast.

They found 50 SS1-VI Pindad-made rifles, several other military devices and 10 empty wooden boxes. They believed the contents of the boxes had been removed before they inspected the ship.

The Philippine police alleged that the firearms and rounds of ammunition would be used to supply a terrorist group and criminal organization in Asia and Africa.

PT Pindad denied that the firearms were sold illegally saying the weapons were ordered by Mali and the Philippines.

The state firm said it had received an order from the Philippine markmen assocition for 10 P2 pistols and an order from Mali for 100 SS1-VI rifles.

It said the ordered firearms were put in 20 boxes, including one destined for the Philippines.

PT Pindad spokesman Timbul Sitompul said on Friday all the weapons found by the Philippine customs officers were ordered by the Philippine and Malian governments.(*)

http://www.antara.co.id/en/news/1251584940/mp-demands-probe-on-pindad-made-weapons-in-philippines
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Pindad obeys rules, arms smuggling yet to be proven: Minister

 Mustaqim Adamrah ,  The Jakarta Post ,  Jakarta   |  Mon, 08/31/2009 4:44 PM  |  National

Defense Minister Juwono Sudarsono says state-arms manufacturer PT Pindad has complied with all rules and regulations amid speculation that Indonesian weapons may have been smuggled into the Philippines.

“What I know is that organizing contracts through Pindad is authorized according to  administrative and customs and excise documents,” he told reporters Monday at the State Palace.

“The only problem is that police are investigating why a vessel [carrying military weapons] moored at another location before arriving in Manila,” he said.

Juwono said the authorities had not yet established whether arms were being smuggled through Moro Island in the southern Philippines.


http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2009/08/31/pindad-obeys-rules-arms-smuggling-yet-be-proven-minister.html

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Those SS1s were meant for Mali?

Why declare said rifles as earmarked for Mali when it is way West of the Philippines in Africa and is several stops away and 50 of those 100 rifles were already unloaded?
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Why declare said rifles as earmarked for Mali when it is way West of the Philippines in Africa and is several stops away and 50 of those 100 rifles were already unloaded?

Fake end-user license from a poor African nation, arms diverted. Classic arms running trick.

Mali is a land-locked country in Africa. How is the ship planning to send the arms?

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Welcome to the forums LionFlyer! :beer:

Indeed... similar to the previously mentioned case of the Marines and the diverted MP5s.

Not that this is a big surprise... we receive so many smuggled weapons in this country it's not even funny.

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Fake end-user license from a poor African nation, arms diverted. Classic arms running trick.

Mali is a land-locked country in Africa. How is the ship planning to send the arms?

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Indonesia to Form Agency to Oversee Arms Trade

The Ministry of Defense announced on Tuesday that it was tightening the supervision of the export and import of military weapons after the recent seizure of an arms shipment by Philippine authorities

Ministry spokesman Brig. Gen. Slamet Hariyanto said that the government was planning to establish a new agency that would be tasked with supervising the process of exporting and importing weapons.

The process is currently supervised by the military’s intelligence agency along with the Ministry of Defense, he said.

“This would likely change with the creation of a new body, which would include other government officials from the Coordinating Ministry of Political, Legal and Security Affairs and the police,” Slamet said.

“We are now facing a serious situation [in arms trading], so I think the new body will be realized soon,” he said.

Defense Minister Juwono Sudarsono, talking separately to journalists, said the body would be managed by Coordinating Minister of Social, Legal and Security Affairs Widodo AS.

A Panama-registered vessel carrying Indonesian manufactured arms, the Captain Ufuk, was detained nearly two weeks ago outside Manila by the country’s custom authorities.

Fernandino Tuason, the chief of the Philippine Customs Intelligence and Investigation Service, said the agency was investigating whether the arms were meant for possible political or terrorist activities, according to the Philippine Star.

A spokesman for PT Pindad, the state arms producer that manufactured the seized arms, said earlier that the shipment had been cleared out of Jakarta’s Tanjung Priok Port.

Ten of the seized pistols had been purchased by a shooting club in the Philippines, he said.

The 100 rifles in the shipment were bound for the Republic of Mali’s Ministry of Internal Security and Civil Protection, but under the contract, Pindad was only assigned to deliver them to the Captain Ufuk.

RWB Inc., a Philippine firm, was responsible for handling the shipment upon arrival there.

Adik Avianto Sudarsono, the director of Pindad, said on Monday that RWB had attached an end-user certificate as an approval from the Philippine and Mali governments, as required in any arms transaction.

First Adm. Sudi Haryono, a senior official at the Ministry of Defense, said they had received the end-user certificate, part of the documents needed by the ministry before approving any arms exports.

In the certificate, a country importing the weapons declares who will use the arms and states they will not be given to any third parties, he said.

“We believe that the certificate is original,” Sudi said.

Slamet said that investigating any documents required for an arms deal, including the end-user certificate, would be a top priority for the new supervisory body.

He also acknowledged that the Defense Ministry did not verify the authenticity of the end-user certificate for the Philippine arms deal.

“We must be polite and trust that the certificate is authentic. But maybe this must be changed in the future by rechecking it,” he said.

Adik Avianto said the government could ban the Philippines or RWB from importing any weapons from Indonesia if they were found violating international rules on arms trading.

http://thejakartaglobe.com/home/indonesia-to-form-agency-to-oversee-arms-trade/327485
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37 charged over gun smuggling
By Edu Punay (The Philippine Star) Updated September 05, 2009 12:00 AM 

MANILA, Philippines - Smuggling charges were filed yesterday with the Department of Justice (DOJ) against 37 people, including 18 foreign nationals, in connection with the undeclared cargo of high-powered firearms seized by authorities off Mariveles town in Bataan last month.

Justice Secretary Agnes Devanadera has ordered an immediate investigation into the complaint filed by Customs Commissioner Napoleon Morales, saying the “case is of national importance since gun smuggling is a threat to national security.”

In the complaint, the Bureau of Customs (BOC) accused the respondents of violating Section 3601 in relation to Section 101 (a) of the Tariff and Customs Code for bringing into the country the guns worth P5.6 million without the necessary import permit and documents.

Named respondents were the captain of the Panamanian-registered M/V Captain Ufuk where the cargo was seized, South African John Lawrence Burne, and his crew, Briton Bruce Jones and Georgian nationals Verdzadze Shalva, chief officer; Bejanidze Gocha, second officer; Shavishvili George, third officer; Lorthkipphanidze Eduard, chief engineer; Malakmadze Tamas, second engineer; Lorthkiphanidze Temur, third engineer; Malakmadze Albert, boson; Bakhtadze Rodam, A/B; Diamidze Gia, A/B; Makaradze Gia, A/B; Mskhaladze Damir and Pogosyan Venlentin, both oilers; and Makharadze Temuri, cook.

Also charged were the owners and crew of a yacht, M/Y Mou Man Tai, where the firearms were unloaded onto: Britons Derek Colin Gordon and Dave Smith, and Filipinos Silvestre Ilena Guanzon, Crispe Lacbayo Jaud, Mark John Flores, Lesley Osorio Englis, and Emillie Malagad Llanto.

The BOC also included in the charge sheet officers of La Plata Trading Inc., owner of the vessel: South African Gary Sidney Smith and Filipinos Michael Arcangel, Leopoldo Macasaet, Randee Napiza, and Oscar Amador.

The owners of the yacht were also named respondents: Isagani Jungco Jr., Barrio Barreto, Cristina Mendoza, Angela Vanessa Fabian, Marilyn Baluyot, and Marie Zjalaina Abueg.

The incorporators, directors and officers and representatives of the consignee of the smuggled rifles and pistols, Red White & Blue Arms Inc. – Marissa Claudio, Soraiya Cabrito, Severino Camlan, Rowel Dolap, Rex Duran, and Nelson del Rosario – were also charged.

The M/V Captain Ufuk was seized and its crew arrested last Aug. 20 by Customs, Coast Guard and police personnel who boarded the vessel while it was anchored at the Mariveles port.

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Briton ready to testify on gun smuggling
By Evelyn Macairan (The Philippine Star) Updated September 11, 2009 12:00 AM 

MANILA, Philippines - The British captain of M/V Captain Ufuk, the vessel reportedly loaded with smuggled firearms that was recently intercepted off Mariveles, Bataan, is reportedly willing to tell all on what happened but wanted to be placed under the Department of Justice’s witness protection program in return.

Bureau of Customs’ Enforcement and Security Service director Nestorio Gualberto said Capt. Bruce Jones, 49, appeared in his office, accompanied by his legal counsel, Joe Frank Zuniega.

Zuniega has already asked Customs Commissioner Napoleon Morales and Justice Secretary Agnes Devanadera that his client be placed under the witness protection program.

“Capt. Bruce Jones is a potential witness. He gave himself up to the bureau to help us track down the people behind the smuggling of these firearms,” Gualberto said.

Apart from Jones, another potential witness in the case is one of the 13 Georgian crewmembers of the Panamanian-registered M/V Captain Ufuk, identified only as a certain Jorge.

Zuniega started coordinating with Morales last week to relay Jones’ interest to surrender himself in exchange for the opportunity to give his side on the alleged smuggling of firearms and shed light on allegations that he was part of a gunrunning syndicate.

“Jones is afraid for his life and claimed that he is a victim and not a suspect. He is expected to disclose information and unmask those behind the operation,” he said.

Gualberto said they received information that a certain Dave Smith and La Plata Trading Inc. allegedly hired Jones last month to buy the vessel in Turkey for $800,000. The 13 Georgian crewmembers were also hired in Turkey.

The group then sailed to Jakarta, Indonesia to buy the firearms. The assault rifles and pistols were legally acquired from Pindan gunmakers in Jakarta for $86,000. Jones and his wife, along with the 13 crewmembers, then proceeded to Subic.

When they reached Subic, Jones traded places with South African national John Lawrence because his pregnant wife had been complaining. They alighted from the vessel and were dropped off in Subic.

Some two weeks ago, the Coast Guard discovered the yacht M/Y Mou Man Tai, skippered by Briton Derek Colin Gordon Neville, which was allegedly hired to ferry Lawrence to M/V Captain Ufuk and bring Jones and his wife to Subic. No firearms were found on board the yacht.

Neville, Lawrence and the 13 Georgian nationals are all detained at the Bureau of Immigration’s facility in Bicutan, Taguig City.

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Pindad to be investigated over arms sales to Philippines
Tuesday, September 1, 2009 10:02 WIB
by Andi Abdussalam

http://www.antara.co.id/en/news/1251774174/pindad-to-be-investigated-over-ar
Pindad to be investigated over arms sales to Philippines


Jakarta (ANTARA News) - The Ministry of State Enterprises (BUMN) will investigate state-owned weapon factory PT Pindad in the wake of its arms sales now being confiscated in the Philippines.

"The investigation will be carried out to assure whether or not there is irregularity in the sales of arms produced by Pindad," BUMN Minister Sofyan Djalil said on Monday.

Last Thursday, Philippine customs officers detained Panama-registered cargo ship Capt Ufuk docking off the Mariveles coast. They found 50 SS1-VI Pindad-made assault rifles, several other military devices and 10 empty wooden boxes. They believed the contents of the boxes had been removed before they inspected the ship.

The state firm said it had received an order from the Philippine marksmen association for 10 P2 pistols and an order from Mali for 100 SS1-VI rifles.

The Philippine police alleged that the firearms and rounds of ammunition would be used to supply a terrorist group and criminal organization in Asia and Africa.

At home, Minister Sofyan Djalil said the circulation of arms in the country, including weapons produced by Pindad were tightly controlled by the government. "We will investigate Pindad to know whether the arms export was carried out legally or not," the minister said.

He said that he had received a report from the Pindad management that the arms sales were based on the standing procedures. "But that is not enough. We have to carry out internal investigation soon."

The BUMN ministry which has the authority over Pindad is responsible for the supervision of the company`s activities. "We will look at it based on the corporate principles whether or not it abode by regulations particularly in terms of contracts of production and sales. "If there is a violation, of course, a sanction will be taken," the minister added.

In the meantime, Defense Minister Juwono Sudarsono said cargo ship Capt Ufuk which carried the arms had made an unscheduled stop-over in Bataan Island, the Philippines, under a request of the supplier. He said when the ship made a stop-over there, several boxes of the assault rifles disappeared.

"The ship made an unscheduled stop-over in the island because it was ordered by the supplier. The Philippine police said the ship should have directly anchored in Manila and discharged the pistols which were destined for the Philippines but several boxes of rifles for Mali had disappeared," he said.

The minister however reluctant to answer a question about the supplier who ordered the ship to make a stop-over in the island of Bataan.

At present, Indonesia is working together with the Philippine police to investigate the question of the unscheduled stop-over.

Sudarsono assured that in term of documents, administration, customs and other documents, the exportation of the arms to the Philippines and Mali was legal.
Moreover, the sending of the arms is under the knowledge of the Indonesian Defense Forces (TNI and police.

Customs and Excise Director General Anwar Suprijadi said the PT Pindad arms held by the Philippine authorities were legal export commodities and had met the customs procedures.

"The arms exported from Tanjung Priok on August 10, 2009, were completed with export notification papers (PEB). Everything is legal and official because the required papers and documents were all there," he said.

On the possibility that the Philippine customs personnel had a misperception, he said, because of the lack of communication with the buyers, and incomplete ship manifests.
PT Pindad had earlier denied that the firearms were sold illegally saying the weapons were ordered by Mali and the Philippines. The state firm said it had received an order from the Philippine marksmen association for 10 P2 pistols and an order from Mali for 100 SS1-VI rifles.

It said the ordered firearms were put in 20 boxes, including one destined for the Philippines. PT Pindad spokesman Timbul Sitompul said all the weapons found by the Philippine customs officers were ordered by the Philippine and Malian governments .
Earlier, the House of Representatives (DPR) said it would ask the government to clarify the seizure by the Philippine customs authorities of weapons made by Indonesian arms industry PT Pindad.

The House wanted the government to explain the matter now that PT Pindad was overseen by the State Enterprises Ministry, chief of the House Commission for information, defense and foreign affairs Theo Sambuaga said.

Meanwhile, legislator Yusron Ihza Mahendra, a member of the House of Representatives` Commission for defense, information and foreign affairs said the case must be investigated.

All relevant agencies, including the Defense Ministry, the State Enterprises Ministry, the Trade Ministry, the Industry Ministry and the State Audit Board must coordinate in investigating the case, he said.

"The probe is necessary to shed light on whether or not the arms shipment is legal," he said. He said the Philippines might not question the arms shipment if PT Pindad had complete documents.

"How could they (the Philippines) declare their ordered arms illegal?" he asked (*)
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Still No Clarity on Indonesian Weapons Seized by the Philippines on Cargo Ship

http://thejakartaglobe.com/home/still-no-clarity-on-indonesian-weapons-seized-by-the-philippines-on-cargo-ship/327070

The recent seizure by Philippine customs officers of a cargo vessel carrying firearms manufactured in Indonesia is raising more questions than answers in both countries, with Indonesia questioning the motives for the bust and a lawmaker calling for answers from the central government.

Military Chief Gen. Djoko Santoso said over the weekend that PT Pindad, the state-owned military equipment manufacturer, had been authorized to export the shipment of assault rifles and pistols by the Ministry of Defense and the State Ministry for State Enterprises.

“The Philippines is buying weaponry from Pindad, not from the TNI [Indonesian Armed Forces],” Djoko said.

The Panama-registered Captain Ufuk was detained nearly two weeks ago outside Manila, and authorities initially said the seized weapons were from Israel.

The British captain of the vessel, Bruce Jones, told authorities that the weapons, worth 100 million Philippine pesos ($2.04 million), were from Indonesia and acquired from Pindad, according to the Manila Bulletin newspaper.

The Captain Ufuk had originally set sail from Turkey and passed by ports in Africa before continuing on to Indonesia. Fernandino Tuason, the chief of the Philippine Customs Intelligence and Investigation Service, said they were investigating whether the arms were meant for possible political or terrorist activities, according to the Philippines Star.

Timbul Sitompul, a Pindad spokesman, said the shipment had been cleared out of Jakarta’s Tanjung Priok port. The pistols were being purchased by a shooting club in the Philippines, he said.

The 100 rifles were bound for the Republic of Mali’s Ministry of Internal Security and Civil Protection, but under the contract, Pindad was assigned to only deliver them to the Captain Ufuk.

RWB Arms Inc., a Philippine company, was responsible for handling the shipment upon arrival there, Sitompul said.


“Of course, we had also received the end-user certificate from the Philippine and Mali governments approving the purchase. Without that, we would not dare to export weaponry,” he said. “The problem began after all the weaponry was taken by the vessel. I think there has been a miscommunication between the Philippine authorities and the ship’s owner,” Sitompul said.

“The ship should first contact and tell the authorities about its arrival and cargo.”

One Indonesian military source, who asked not to be named, said arm shipments, whether legal or illegal, were likely a sensitive issue in the Philippines ahead of a scheduled presidential election next year, given the country’s history of poll-related political killings.

Yusron Ihza Mahendra, a lawmaker from the House of Representatives’ Commission I on Defense and Foreign Affairs, said they would question central government officials during a meeting on Tuesday to disclose all details of the incident.

“We’re talking about weaponry, not rice,” Yusron said.
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