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Marine - Police misencounter in Sulu (2002)
« on: October 06, 2009, 12:10:28 AM »
have you read this ?...

16 killed in Marine-police ‘misencounter’ in Sulu
By Roel Pareño (The Philippine Star) Updated January 16, 2002 12:00 AM 

JOLO, Sulu — An accidental firefight between Philippine Marines and local police here at the height of a peace rally calling for the return of a rebel leader left 16 people dead yesterday, officials said.

The firefight occurred at 5:30 p.m. in Jolo town proper right in front of the municipal hall, Maj. Gen. Glicerio Sua, Western Mindanao military commander and Task Force Comet head, said.

Sua said the dead consisted of nine Marines, three policemen, one Army integree, and three civilians. He said six civilians and two integrees were reported wounded. The identities of the dead and wounded were not immediately available.

Military Southern Command official Col. Roland Detabali said the "misencounter" occurred when police opened fire on Marine soldiers responding to a civil disturbance call in downtown Jolo.

Army spokesman Lt. Col. Jose Mabanta said the troops from Marine headquarters in nearby Barangay Busbos were sent to quell a riot that broke out during a rally of dozens of civilian supporters of detained Muslim leader Nur Misuari.

The free-for-all was triggered when a Marine officer in civilian clothes was accosted by police for carrying a grenade and then severely beaten.

When Marines went to Jolo town to "rescue and pacify" the parties, the clash erupted "sending the rallyists scampering in different directions," General Sua said.

The peace rally began at 4 p.m. near the town hall, with demonstrators calling for the return of former Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao governor Misuari, currently detained in a jail at Fort Sto. Domingo in Sta. Rosa, Laguna.

Sua said, however, that things were under control.

"The tension has been defused. I have directed military commander Col. Romeo Tolentino to dig deeper into the incident with the police provincial director," he said. — With Paolo Romero
. . .“We of the military shall always do what we are told to do. But if this nation is to survive, we must trust the soldier once our statesmen fail to preserve the peace.”       - Gen. Douglas McArthur

"... In all crossroads of our history as a nation , the military was the factor to reckon with. If all militaries all over the world have had a swing role, it is primarily because of the distinct monopoly they enjoy as an institution - the monopoly on the use of FORCE. ..."   Speech of Chief Justice Reynato S. Puno


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Re: Marine - Police misencounter in Sulu (2002)
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2009, 01:49:40 AM »
Dang, didn't read about this then. :jeez:

Let me guess: The policemen were supporters of Nur Misuari?

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Re: Marine - Police misencounter in Sulu (2002)
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2009, 02:44:12 AM »
Dang, didn't read about this then. :jeez:

Let me guess: The policemen were supporters of Nur Misuari?


       Yep, they were MNLF integrees to the PNP. Here's another...


Pulis bumanat pa, 5 militar todas
(Pilipino Star Ngayon) Updated January 17, 2002 12:00 AM 

Patuloy pa ring binabalot ng matinding tensiyon ang Jolo, Sulu kung saan umabot na sa 21 ang kabuuang bilang ng napapatay sa labanan sa pagitan ng militar at sundalo, makaraang limang Scout Ranger naman ng Phil. Army ang todasin sa isang ambush ng mga MNLF integree ng PNP habang namamalengke ang mga biktima sa kapitolyo ng nasabing bayan kahapon ng umaga.

Sa panayam kay AFP Southcom Chief Lt. Gen. Roy Cimatu, naganap ang pananambang dakong alas-9 ng umaga habang namimili ang mga sundalo na pawang miyembro ng Army’s 2nd Scout Ranger Batallion sa Jolo public market.

Bigla na lamang sumulpot ang mga armadong kalalakihan na napag-alamang mga PNP integrees at tinadtad ng bala ang mga sundalo at mabilis na nagsitakas.

Sinabi ni Cimatu na ang insidente ay pinaniniwalaang may kaugnayan sa nangyaring madugong misencounter kamakalawa sa pagitan ng tropa ng Phil. Marines at PNP integrees na ikinamatay ng 16 katao na kinabibilangan ng siyam na Marines, tatlong pulis, tatlong sibilyan at isang MNLF integree.

Nagsasagawa noon ng pro-Misuari rally ang may 100 katao nang sitahin umano ng mga tropa ng Marines. Isang ralista ang sinasabing nagsumbong sa mga PNP integree na rumesponde naman hanggang sa mauwi sa labanan ang komprontasyon.

Bukod sa anggulo ng misencounter, inaalam pa rin ang ulat na posibleng mga sibilyan na symphatizers ni dating ARMM Gov. Nur Misuari ang sangkot sa ambus.

Samantala, upang maibsan ang tensiyon sa Jolo ay agad ipinag-utos ng liderato ng AFP at PNP ang "back-to-barracks" sa lahat ng MNLF integrees na kabilang na sa hukbo para pigilan ang posible pang pagsiklab ng labanan sa pagitan ng naggagantihang puwersa.

Pinull-out na rin ng PNP ang may 400 pulis ng Special Mobile Group na naroon sa lugar. Nabatid na halos lahat ng bumubuo ng Mobile Group ay pawang mga dating sundalo ni Misuari. Loyalty check
Hiniling kahapon ng ilang mambabatas mula sa Mindanao na isailalim sa loyalty check ang mga dating tauhan ni Nur Misuari sa Moro National Liberation Front (MNLF) na inihalo na sa AFP at PNP.

Ang pagsasailalim sa loyalty check ay kaugnay sa naganap na misencounter kamalawa sa pagitan ng Marines at PNP sa Jolo, Sulu.

Hindi umano maiaalis na pagdudahan na may simpatya pa rin ang mga MNLF integree kay Nur kaya kailangang alamin ng AFP at PNP kung nasaan ang katapatan ng mga ito. (Ulat nina Joy Cantos at Malou Rongalerios-Escudero)
. . .“We of the military shall always do what we are told to do. But if this nation is to survive, we must trust the soldier once our statesmen fail to preserve the peace.”       - Gen. Douglas McArthur

"... In all crossroads of our history as a nation , the military was the factor to reckon with. If all militaries all over the world have had a swing role, it is primarily because of the distinct monopoly they enjoy as an institution - the monopoly on the use of FORCE. ..."   Speech of Chief Justice Reynato S. Puno


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Re: Marine - Police misencounter in Sulu (2002)
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2009, 02:50:51 AM »
matagal na ito report......akala ko bago lang  :jeez:

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Re: Marine - Police misencounter in Sulu (2002)
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2009, 04:26:07 AM »
Why the focus on creating an adversarial image between the police and the AFP Radrick?

State your intentions.

Mis-encounters, policemen getting their arses whipped for arresting soldiers, and other similar PNP-AFP incidents have been reported on the forum quite a while now.
« Last Edit: October 06, 2009, 04:30:27 AM by Adroth »
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Re: Marine - Police misencounter in Sulu (2002)
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2009, 05:08:16 AM »
This thread is rather misleading.

For me this is blatant trolling.

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we do not tolerate this form of activity. be advised.
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« Last Edit: October 06, 2009, 05:12:09 AM by jepot »

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Re: Marine - Police misencounter in Sulu (2002)
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2009, 05:21:29 AM »
Why the focus on creating an adversarial image between the police and the AFP Radrick?

State your intentions.

Mis-encounters, policemen getting their arses whipped for arresting soldiers, and other similar PNP-AFP incidents have been reported on the forum quite a while now.


My apologies to all... it was just a coincidence. I have no bad intentions. You may delete those topics that i have posted.   :beer:
. . .“We of the military shall always do what we are told to do. But if this nation is to survive, we must trust the soldier once our statesmen fail to preserve the peace.”       - Gen. Douglas McArthur

"... In all crossroads of our history as a nation , the military was the factor to reckon with. If all militaries all over the world have had a swing role, it is primarily because of the distinct monopoly they enjoy as an institution - the monopoly on the use of FORCE. ..."   Speech of Chief Justice Reynato S. Puno


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Re: Marine - Police misencounter in Sulu (2002)
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2009, 06:16:29 AM »

ngaun ko lng nabasa eto ah.....

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Re: Marine - Police misencounter in Sulu (2002)
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2009, 06:39:30 AM »
ngaun ko lng nabasa eto ah.....



Thanks. my intention was just for info to those who missed reading this news.
. . .“We of the military shall always do what we are told to do. But if this nation is to survive, we must trust the soldier once our statesmen fail to preserve the peace.”       - Gen. Douglas McArthur

"... In all crossroads of our history as a nation , the military was the factor to reckon with. If all militaries all over the world have had a swing role, it is primarily because of the distinct monopoly they enjoy as an institution - the monopoly on the use of FORCE. ..."   Speech of Chief Justice Reynato S. Puno


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Re: Marine - Police misencounter in Sulu (2002)
« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2009, 06:50:23 AM »
This thread is rather misleading.

For me this is blatant trolling.

OPEN WARNING FOR YOU RADRICK

we do not tolerate this form of activity. be advised.
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       With due respect Sir Jepot, i just posted this topic, without implying anything. If you notice I did not make any comment succeeding my post. That's why I was waiting for those who would reply.

      What I was thinking is that the government must review all the rebels' integration to the AFP or PNP. Because this might be posing a dangerous precedent. In effect, putting our soldiers and civialians in danger just like what happened there in Sulu way back in 2002.

       If in case there is already an executive order of the President or a decision of higher authorites pertaining this matter, well and good. Otherwise, we must learn the lessons of our history.  :beer:
« Last Edit: October 06, 2009, 06:55:03 AM by Radrick »
. . .“We of the military shall always do what we are told to do. But if this nation is to survive, we must trust the soldier once our statesmen fail to preserve the peace.”       - Gen. Douglas McArthur

"... In all crossroads of our history as a nation , the military was the factor to reckon with. If all militaries all over the world have had a swing role, it is primarily because of the distinct monopoly they enjoy as an institution - the monopoly on the use of FORCE. ..."   Speech of Chief Justice Reynato S. Puno


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Re: Marine - Police misencounter in Sulu (2002)
« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2009, 06:51:24 AM »
The PNP troopers where MNLF integrees and have been reassigned to Central Mindanao after this incident.
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Re: Marine - Police misencounter in Sulu (2002)
« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2009, 07:46:03 AM »
       With due respect Sir Jepot, i just posted this topic, without implying anything. If you notice I did not make any comment succeeding my post. That's why I was waiting for those who would reply.

      What I was thinking is that the government must review all the rebels' integration to the AFP or PNP. Because this might be posing a dangerous precedent. In effect, putting our soldiers and civialians in danger just like what happened there in Sulu way back in 2002.

       If in case there is already an executive order of the President or a decision of higher authorites pertaining this matter, well and good. Otherwise, we must learn the lessons of our history.  :beer:

your admonition still stands. if your intent was to review history, maybe you should use the search function and update any thread related to your input.  and post it in the appropriate section.

do not repeat the same mistake nor make mistakes that we do not tolerate in this forum. as we always say here, read ( and search if needed ) before you post.
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Re: Marine - Police misencounter in Sulu (2002)
« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2009, 08:31:30 AM »
your admonition still stands. if your intent was to review history, maybe you should use the search function and update any thread related to your input.  and post it in the appropriate section.

do not repeat the same mistake nor make mistakes that we do not tolerate in this forum. as we always say here, read ( and search if needed ) before you post.
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       Copy that, Sir.  :)
. . .“We of the military shall always do what we are told to do. But if this nation is to survive, we must trust the soldier once our statesmen fail to preserve the peace.”       - Gen. Douglas McArthur

"... In all crossroads of our history as a nation , the military was the factor to reckon with. If all militaries all over the world have had a swing role, it is primarily because of the distinct monopoly they enjoy as an institution - the monopoly on the use of FORCE. ..."   Speech of Chief Justice Reynato S. Puno


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