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Are you still going to Carry your Gun even with the BAN ?

Yes , Why ?
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Re: Comelec Total Gun Ban
« Reply #60 on: January 22, 2010, 05:23:37 AM »
baka security detail to ng high profile person, hindi pwedeng sabayan ang convoy like the ombudsman and the president....


even if that's the case, ang sabi sa rule ng COMELEC at PNP, dapat naka-complete GOA ang mga pulis na naka-detail sa mga VIP... AFAIK, bawal magdala ng baril ang mga Pulis na "naka-civilian uniform"
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Re: Comelec Total Gun Ban
« Reply #62 on: January 30, 2010, 11:15:01 PM »
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Re: Comelec Total Gun Ban
« Reply #63 on: February 01, 2010, 06:38:17 AM »
Thanks for the update, Mr. L! Much appreciated. I hope that basterd Liabres has all his licenses revoked. I'll all for citizens legally owning and properly using guns, but this oxygen thief is ruining it for all of us.

BTW, in his list of licensed guns, there are listed 2 pistols: a Llama .45, and a BUL 9mm. HOWEVER, the gun he is flashing in the photos definitely looks like NONE of the above. It actually looks like a CZ-pattern pistol, as made by Tanfoglio and Norinco. Hmmmm.... maybe that is an unlicensed gun...?

In any case, they should have met up with Jason Ivler. That would have been a doozy!  :lol:

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Re: Comelec Total Gun Ban
« Reply #64 on: February 02, 2010, 06:52:26 PM »
Verzosa on cops facing gun ban raps: PNP commanders also to blame
By Cecille Suerte Felipe (The Philippine Star) Updated February 03, 2010 12:00 AM
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=546183&publicationSubCategoryId=65

MANILA, Philippines - Irked over the increasing number of police officers arrested for violating the election-related gun ban, Philippine National Police (PNP) chief Director General Jesus Verzosa warned police commanders yesterday that they will be held administratively liable if their personnel disregard the ban.

Verzosa said at least 40 police officers, assigned in different police stations nationwide, were arrested for violating the gun ban, which was relatively high and “unacceptable.”

The PNP chief said he would invoke the Doctrine of Command Responsibility to lay a degree of accountability on police commanders.

“I am serving notice to all police commanders that appropriate administrative sanctions will be meted against those whose subordinates have been arrested in violation of the election gun ban, as a consequence of the commanders apparent failure to exercise proper supervision over their men,” Verzosa said.

Aside from 40 police officers, those arrested for violating the gun ban imposed by the Commission on Elections include 25 members of the Armed Forces of the Philippines, 23 government officials and employees and 479 civilians. They are facing various criminal and administrative charges for violation of the election gun ban law.

Verzosa said the ideal number of police violators should be zero in order to clothe the 130,000-strong PNP with “organizational and personal” moral ascendancy and enable them to conduct credible and effective security and law enforcement operations.

“I cannot understand, much less accept the fact why some policemen think that they are above the law. As officers of the law, we all must obey the law, not violate the very same law which we are supposed to enforce,” a visibly irked Verzosa said.

He directed Chief Superintendent Ifor Magbanua, Inspector General of the PNP Internal Affairs Service (IAS), to resolve the cases involving police officers within 30 days from the time of their arrest for gun ban violations until the determination of appropriate sanctions against them.

“We (PNP leadership) must send a strong and very clear signal to every policeman that the government is serious in the campaign against illegal possession and carrying of firearms anywhere by anyone especially in line with our pursuit of ensuring the conduct of honest, orderly and peaceful elections this May, by expeditiously resolving and pursuing to their logical end, the cases against these policemen,” Verzosa said.

Violators of the gun ban law face criminal charges of illegal possession of firearms, and in the case of policemen, they are also slapped with administrative cases with penalties ranging from re-training and suspension to demotion and outright dismissal from the service.

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Re: Comelec Total Gun Ban
« Reply #65 on: March 04, 2010, 01:07:27 AM »
PNP warns against fake Comelec gun permits
March 4, 2010, 3:49pm

BACOLOD CITY (PNA) — Police Regional Office 6 Director, Police Chief Superintendent Isagani Cuevas is warning against the proliferation of spurious gun ban exemption permits being circulated by unscrupulous individuals nationwide.

Cuevas’ statement was relative to the early warning on the matter issued by Philippine National Police (PNP) Chief, Police Director General Jesus Verzosa.

Such may be the reason why cases of gun ban violations continue to balloon as the country moves closer to the May 10, 2010 national and local elections, said Cuevas.

In Western Visayas, 93 out of 133 of gun ban violation cases have been filed in court.

Said statistics are included in the PNP National Headquarters’ record which lists 1,145 election gun ban violators since January 10, 2010 when the Commission on Elections (Comelec)-imposed prohibition on firearms took effect nationwide.

Persons arrested for violating the Comelec gun will be charged with violation of Comelec Resolution No. 8740 which prohibits the carrying of firearms, explosives and deadly weapons during the 150-day election period starting last January 10, 2010.

Cuevas said information reaching the PNP National Headquarters that fake Comelec Permit to Carry Firearms Outside of Residence (PTCFOR) purportedly issued by the poll body’s Committee on the Ban of Firearms and Security Personnel (CBFSP) which bears the forged signature of Comelec Commissioner Lucenito Tagle was allegedly sourced from a certain Francisco Tan Jr. selling the fake permit at Php5,000 a piece.

Cuevas said that all provincial and city police offices and Public Safety Management Companies have already been instructed to verify the PTCFOR they come across in checkpoints, or in any other police operations.

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Re: Comelec Total Gun Ban
« Reply #66 on: March 15, 2010, 05:57:40 AM »
Albay town mayor arrested over fake gun permit

By Ryan Chua, ABS-CBN News | 03/15/2010 3:35 PM

MANILA, Philippines -  The mayor of Malinao town, Albay province is in hot water for using a fake gun ban permit while carrying a caliber 45 pistol and ammunition inside a major airport.

Elements of the Aviation Security Group arrested Malinao Mayor Billy Ceriola at the Ninoy Aquino International Airport Terminal 3 for using a fake gun ban exemption certificate for his weapon and ammunition.

Senior Superintendent Napoleon Cuaton said Ceriola was arrested inside Philippine Airlines flight PR277 bound for Legazpi, Albay. He said the Commission on Elections denied issuing a permit to Cuaton.

Ceriola, meanwhile, said a certain Fred Llorica processed his gun ban permit for P5,000. He said he had no idea that his gun ban exemption certificate was fake.

The mayor is facing possible criminal charges before the Pasay Prosecutor's Office.

The Comelec, meanwhile, warned the public about the proliferation of fake gun ban exemption certificates.

Comelec Commissioner Lucenito Tagle, head of the poll body's gun ban committee, said it has discovered up to six such cases so far, the latest of which involved a mayor of Albay.

The Philippine National Police said fake gun ban certificates sell for P5,000.

Tagle reiterated that only law enforcement agencies such as the military and the police and other groups specified in Comelec resolution 8714 are exempted from the ban. They never grant exemptions for other individuals, he said.

"Now that we are in a nationwide gun ban, we don't grant exemptions. Malinaw 'yan," he said. "Even judges, prosecutors are asking for exemptions, pero hindi namin pinapayagan."

Meanwhile, Tagle said that so far, 1,630 gun ban violators and 40 partisan armed groups have been arrested.
 
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Re: Comelec Total Gun Ban
« Reply #67 on: March 15, 2010, 02:47:14 PM »
Albay town mayor arrested over fake gun permit

Comelec Commissioner Lucenito Tagle, head of the poll body's gun ban committee, said it has discovered up to six such cases so far, the latest of which involved a mayor of Albay.

Tagle reiterated that only law enforcement agencies such as the military and the police and other groups specified in Comelec resolution 8714 are exempted from the ban. They never grant exemptions for other individuals, he said.


Meanwhile, Tagle said that so far, 1,630 gun ban violators and 40 partisan armed groups have been arrested.
 
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/regions/...fake-gun-permit

Wow. I feel safer already.  :bash:

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Re: Comelec Total Gun Ban
« Reply #68 on: March 16, 2010, 09:13:23 PM »
http://www.manilatimes.net/index.php/top-stories/13515-comelec-wont-issue-gun-ban-exemptions
Comelec won’t issue gun ban exemptions



Wednesday, 17 March 2010 00:00


By BERNICE CAMILLE V. BAUZON Reporter

Noting that there seems to be a proliferation of “fake” gun ban exemption certificates, a high-ranking official of the Commission on Elections (Comelec) on Tuesday said that they are not issuing any gun ban exemptions for individual gun carriers.

According to Commissioner Lucenito Tagle, they have never issued a gun ban exemption since that would violate Comelec Resolution 8714, which only allows law-enforcement agencies to bear firearms during the campaign period.


“Fake yan. napapansin naming na nagpro-proliferate yan. Ang nahuhuli yung nabentahan. Ang dapat mahuli yung nagbebenta [We have noticed that fake gun ban exemption certificates are proliferating. But the ones caught are those buying them. Those who should be arrested are the ones selling the fake certificates],” Tagle said. He added that the poll body even disapproved the applications of judges, prosecutors and Cabinet secretaries to carry firearms.

“We don’t grant exemptions individually, only law-enforcement agencies are allowed [to do so]. They are enumerated in that resolution,” Tagle said.

Reports have reached the Comelec that there were some individuals possessing gun ban exemption forms signed by Tagle. The commissioner, however, said that those forms were still the old ones used by Comelec Commissioner Nicodemo Ferrer during the 2007 mid-term elections when he was still heading the gun ban committee.

“Noong araw nag-issue si Commissioner Ferrer yun ang ginagamit niya. Binago lang yung date saka yung signature. Tinanggal yung signature ni Ferrer, nilagay yung akin [Ferrer used to issue gun ban exemptions using those forms. But the date and signature were changed and my signature was the one used],” Tagle explained.

He said that if an individual is found guilty of carrying firearms during the election period, he or she can be imprisoned from one to six years and disqualified from holding public office.

Tagle added that the individuals who possess fake gun ban exemption certificates can also be charged with falsification of public documents, which is a criminal offense.

Under Comelec Resolution 8714, only law-enforcement agencies are allowed to carry firearms during the election period from January 10 to June 9.

Tagle said that there were about 1,360 individuals arrested for violating the Comelec gun ban, of which five or six cases involved fake certificates.

He added that the gun ban violation cases are being investigated by the Philippine National Police.

“They [offenders] can be criminally liable for violation of the Omnibus Election Code and of our resolution once they are found guilty,” Tagle said.

Cory, Ninoy posters
Meanwhile, Comelec Commissioner Rene Sarmiento also on Tuesday said that posters of former President Corazon “Cory” Aquino and her husband, former Sen. Benigno “Ninoy” Aquino Jr., that line up Roxas Boulevard in Manila do not violate campaign laws since they do not bear the name or face of Liberal Party standard-bearer Sen. Benigno “Noynoy” Aquino 3rd, the only son of the Aquinos.

He added that Cory and Ninoy are both considered national treasures so the Comelec could not tear down the posters showing the couple.

“Cory used to be our president and Ninoy is an icon. Personally, I cannot speak on behalf of the commission, wala naman kasamang candidate itong dalawang ito. Kung hindi naman kasama si Noynoy [But the posters do not have Noynoy or any political candidate],” Sarmiento said.

Under the Comelec guidelines on campaigning, a candidate is only allowed to post campaign materials in common poster areas designated by the poll body.

Earlier, some groups questioned the presence of the yellow Cory-Ninoy posters since this could be a form of campaigning by Noynoy.

The posters were put up after the death of the former president last year.

Comelec spokesman James Jimenez also on Monday said that they might request that the Cory-Ninoy posters be taken down since people can still remember the Aquino couple even without the posters.

Mayor Alfredo Lim of Manila has refused to take down the posters, which Jimenez personally believes is not an election offense.
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Re: Comelec Total Gun Ban
« Reply #69 on: March 16, 2010, 10:44:44 PM »
hmmmm..... interesting  news.  the last i've heard the first batch of PPSA gun ban exemptions is already available and ready for distribution.

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« Reply #70 on: March 17, 2010, 12:18:48 AM »
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The commissioner, however, said that those forms were still the old ones used by Comelec Commissioner Nicodemo Ferrer during the 2007 mid-term elections when he was still heading the gun ban committee.

The same guy heading the notorious 2nd Division.
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Re: Comelec Total Gun Ban
« Reply #71 on: March 17, 2010, 06:31:44 AM »
Suddenly...

Prosecutor faces raps for clearing gun-wielding Albay mayor

abs-cbnNEWS.com | 03/17/2010 5:02 PM


MANILA, Philippines - The Philippine National Police on Wednesday filed criminal and administrative charges against a Pasay City prosecutor for ordering the release of a Bicol town mayor arrested for violation of the Commission on Elections (Comelec) nationwide gunban.

The PNP said the charges were filed by the Aviation Security Group before the Office of the Ombudsman against Manuel Ortega, assistant prosecutor of the Pasay City Prosecutor's Office.

The PNP said Ortega committed an abuse of discretion and malfeasance in handling the case of Mayor Avelino Ceriola of Malinao town, Albay province.

Airport policemen arrested Ceriola Monday at the Ninoy Aquino International Airport Terminal 2 for possession of a .45 caliber pistol while about to board a flight to Legazpi City.

The mayor presented a permit to carry of firearms outside of residence and a gunban exemption letter form the Comelec. The papers, which turned out to be fake were presented by the police to the prosecutor.

The PNP said that despite the overwhelming evidence, Prosecutor Ortega cleared the mayor and ordered his release from police custody. It said that Ortega came out with a an inquest resolution approved by City Prosecutor Elmer Mitra "finding lack of probable cause sufficient to sustain respondent's formal indictment in court."

It said that according to Ortega the police failed to present the firearm and ammunition seized from the mayor and the allegedly fake firearm documents.

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/metro-ma...ing-albay-mayor

I see another intentional foul up ...   :jeez:
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Re: Comelec Total Gun Ban
« Reply #72 on: March 17, 2010, 07:11:07 AM »
I see another intentional foul up ...   :jeez:

i smell money... :jeez:
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Re: Comelec Total Gun Ban
« Reply #73 on: March 17, 2010, 10:23:30 AM »
Hey 4th, its da 'foolis', whatdya expect...

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Re: Comelec Total Gun Ban
« Reply #74 on: March 17, 2010, 11:22:52 AM »
Hey 4th, its da 'foolis', whatdya expect...
i expect them to be discreet about it...nakuuu
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