Author Topic: Retitled: Surface Attack Aircraft (SAA) / Lead-In Fighter Trainer (LIFT) project  (Read 1109961 times)

miggye

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ZAMBOANGA CITY, Philippines - The Department of National Defense (DND) and the Philippine Air Force's (PAF) plan for the acquisition of long-range patrol aircraft and 12 fighter jets lead-in aircraft is almost ďa done deal," said Air Force Chief Lt. Gen. Lauro Catalino dela Cruz on Tuesday.

Does anyone know about the Patrol aircraft?

Source: http://www.philstar.com/nation/2013/04/02/926134/paf-acquisition-long-range-aircraft-fighter-jets-almost-done-deal

Hitman, that could be the Maritime Patrol Aircraft program of the PAF. they had previously announced that they were selecting between the CN235 and the 295, and the ATR72. previous postings here last year stated that the PAF preferred the CN235 or Spain/Indonesia. 3 are to be delivered...
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Gentlemen,

This is a thread about the SAA/LIFT project. Discuss these other projects in their respective threads. Use the search function.
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Lucky CNN reporter got her piggyback ride on a Sokor T-50  :D

CNN's Anna Coren rides in the T-50, a $25 million South Korean fighter jet, at speeds of up to 800 kilometers per hour.

Video:
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/04/30/world/asia/south-korea-fighter-flight-coren/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

Hopefully PAF Pilots get their hands on these birds soon for training.
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Lucky CNN reporter got her piggyback ride on a Sokor T-50  :D

CNN's Anna Coren rides in the T-50, a $25 million South Korean fighter jet, at speeds of up to 800 kilometers per hour.

Video:
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/04/30/world/asia/south-korea-fighter-flight-coren/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

Hopefully PAF Pilots get their hands on these birds soon for training.

Its an impressive LIFT/SAA bird. Im wondering about the FA-50 maneuver capability vs this T-50. interesting bird for the PAF
« Last Edit: April 30, 2013, 04:41:52 AM by WApinoy »

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http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t5#/video/international/2013/04/28/south-korea-coren-supersonic-jet.cnn

See the first half where she barely passes the G-force pod (must stay conscious at 6Gs for 20 seconds) - very reminiscent of Jetstream - a TV series about F18 pilots in training. This is where most tactical jet trainees will get scrubbed from the program.  Hopefully PAF cadres will be enduring this again in the near future with shiny new T-50s awaiting them outside.
« Last Edit: April 30, 2013, 06:20:05 AM by Juramentado »

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http://www.pna.gov.ph/index.php?idn=1&sid=&nid=1&rid=521524


MANILA, May 1 (PNA) -- The Department of National Defense (DND) is still waiting for its South Korean counterpart to release the so-called "DAPA" before proceeding with the acquisition of the Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI)'s F/A-50 "Golden Eagle" jet aircraft.

The "DAPA" is a technical document certifying that the aircraft has passed all standards requisite for military planes.

Besides this, "DAPA" is also a guarantee that the South Korean government and KAI will assist the Philippines in rectifying possible technical malfunctions or defects in the F/A-50.

"We have meet with South Korean defense representatives this Tuesday and they have pledged to give us this document as soon as possible. Once we have this document in our hands, the acquisition for the F/A-50 will start rolling," the DND observer stressed.

The latter added that the ball is literally in the hands of the South Korean officials if the Philippine Air Force (PAF) is to fly the F/A-50 anytime soon.

"But until we have the 'DAPA' in our hands, the DND is still open to any aircraft manufacturer who is willing to sell affordable and yet quality jet planes to the Philippines," he added.

But the DND observer also clarified that the F/A-50 is the ideal aircraft for the PAF due to its capabilities.

"What we are asking now is that the South Korean act on this matter immediately so that the acquisition process can be expedited," he pointed out.........

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I have a question.. is this "DAPA" really a prerequisite when purchasing military aircraft's from a supplier? I mean does other countries also request for such? Because I think our DND is asking this and that.. its making the process very time-consuming.   

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I have a question.. is this "DAPA" really a prerequisite when purchasing military aircraft's from a supplier? I mean does other countries also request for such? Because I think our DND is asking this and that.. its making the process very time-consuming.

The FA-50 is not a proven platform, and only recently entered service. This is a reasonable precaution.
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The FA-50 is not a proven platform, and only recently entered service. This is a reasonable precaution.

I see... Sir A. thank you for the clarification, now I understand what DAPA is for..  :)

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From what I wached in the news (PTV 4), they are awaiting for documents (from KAI) certifying that they are dealing directly with the Korean government (government to government) for this acquisition to continue.

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in the end this aquisition will go  "maDAPA" because of the ever changing plans of the DND and the AFP.  :jeez:

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in the end this aquisition will go  "maDAPA" because of the ever changing plans of the DND and the AFP.  :jeez:

No sense lengthening the thread with these quips.
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in the end this aquisition will go  "maDAPA" because of the ever changing plans of the DND and the AFP.  :jeez:

And why? Do you have data that says so? By all means share it. Evidence says otherwise, so unless you have data on the contrary, you are just wasting bandwidth and memory.
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Finally got confirmation. Looks like the press dropped the ball on the "DAPA" business again.

"DAPA" is actually this entity, the "Defense Acquisition Program Administration". It is South Korea's equivalent to the US DARPA, but with an added sales function.

DAPA: Lessons from South Korea

What the DND is waiting for is an airworthiness certification from this organization. They are waiting on DAPA for the document . . . not for a DAPA. The reporter/editor arguably didn't know what the acronym meant and then filled in the blanks.

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They are waiting on something like this. (Credit to the source who wishes to remain anonymous)

How different the final document is from this sampling, or if there are other supporting documents other than this sample, is unclear.

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This is the certificate from DAPA already, right? It's not addressed to an entity like the PAF or DND, or to any other addressee so it means this is already an "advance copy" or sorts?