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mondo bizzaro

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What is PNP-SAF's Doctrine?
« on: August 05, 2004, 04:03:03 AM »
What is their mandate? They seem to be pretty well armed with some logistic support. They could go at it with the PSG or some SF units from the military. I think secretly that is their purpose. In case one or the other mounts another coup or rebellion.

I'm originaly from Mindanao and I've seen them operating in Cotabato, Zambo and Davao. At least I think I do judging frm the uniforms.

Pretty odd for a police force to be armed with galils, Saw/Minimi, M60A2, Barrets .50cal sniper rifles, M203 rifles, hummers mounted with machine guns or that 40mm rounds and camouflages with delicious colors. It's like a chocolate chip cookie with strawberry cream swirls!

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« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2004, 04:42:11 AM »
I think the PNP-SAF are being groomed or trained and armed to the teeth to fight internal insurgency....who knows the Philippine Armed Forces will focus on External Defense of our Country....PNP are armed with V150 Commandos and they got their own MG520 attack helicopters (brown colored)...

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Top 10 PNP-SAF Doctrine
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2004, 07:35:22 AM »
1. For Gold, Glory, and Girls!
2. Guns don't kill people. We kill people!
3. Shoot first, ask questions never.
4. Can you say "excruciating torture"?
5. katawan, katawan, katawan, katawan.... OHHH KATAWAN!!
6. They shot at us first, so we retaliated with everything we got.
7. Who's afraid of Panfilo Lacson?
8. Sing a song of kuratong...
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Re: Top 10 PNP-SAF Doctrine
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2004, 06:56:31 PM »
Quote from: Sergeant Major
1. For Gold, Glory, and Girls!
2. Guns don't kill people. We kill people!
3. Shoot first, ask questions never.
4. Can you say "excruciating torture"?
5. katawan, katawan, katawan, katawan.... OHHH KATAWAN!!
6. They shot at us first, so we retaliated with everything we got.
7. Who's afraid of Panfilo Lacson?
8. Sing a song of kuratong...
9. Integrity - morality + rich chinese kids = $$$
10. Mabuhay ang Pilipinas! YEAH RIGHT!!


what about shoot first then fire a warning shot later?

Anyway seriously anybody knows the current stregnth of the PNP-SAF ?

I always think that they can handle the Insurgency pacification that involves the NPA and let the AFP handle the MILF.
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What is PNP-SAF's Doctrine?
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2004, 07:49:21 PM »
i believe the PNP SAF took its roots from the defunct PC-INP SAF which replaced the Metrocom Light Reaction Unit, an anti-terrorist force. however, their role is not limited here. They also do COIN roles to complement the PNP Regional/Provincial Mobile Groups which inherited the COIN functions of the defunct PC Companies.

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What is PNP-SAF's Doctrine?
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2004, 10:54:08 AM »
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i believe the PNP SAF took its roots from the defunct PC-INP SAF which replaced the Metrocom Light Reaction Unit, an anti-terrorist force. however, their role is not limited here. They also do COIN roles to complement the PNP Regional/Provincial Mobile Groups which inherited the COIN functions of the defunct PC Companies.


I beleive you're right. I have a friend here who says his brother was part of the first batch of SAF and as you've said PC-INP. His brother was stationed in Negros fighting the commies. But he also said the newer SAF were just HS grads of College undergrads, so medyo patapun na ang buhay? Is that right?

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What is PNP-SAF's Doctrine?
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2004, 10:19:36 PM »
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But he also said the newer SAF were just HS grads of College undergrads, so medyo patapun na ang buhay? Is that right?


The SAF personnel are police officers and have to pass the same requirements as that of the regular PNP.

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Re: What is PNP-SAF's Doctrine?
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2009, 08:12:36 AM »
their doctrine?just like the doctrine of the PNP but what's the difference is that they train well and and with such virtues.their mission to conduct special operations.they have highly sophisticated firearm that maybe you can only see them on television.but most they have pride and honor disciplined...

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Re: What is PNP-SAF's Doctrine?
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2009, 08:39:47 AM »
their doctrine?just like the doctrine of the PNP but what's the difference is that they train well and and with such virtues.their mission to conduct special operations.they have highly sophisticated firearm that maybe you can only see them on television.but most they have pride and honor disciplined...


I've been a fan of the PC SAF before. But I remember one incident that they went in the news for the first time was rescuing one of their drunk members from a police station.
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Re: What is PNP-SAF's Doctrine?
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2009, 09:07:11 AM »
their doctrine?just like the doctrine of the PNP but what's the difference is that they train well and and with such virtues.their mission to conduct special operations.they have highly sophisticated firearm that maybe you can only see them on television.but most they have pride and honor disciplined...


These kinds of self-serving statements do not do the PNP-SAF any good.

If you do not have information about the PNP-SAF doctrine, then it would be better that you had not posted at all.  :thumbsdown:
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Re: What is PNP-SAF's Doctrine?
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2009, 12:24:55 AM »
What is their mandate?

http://www.pnp.gov.ph/about/content/offices/central/saf/info/about/about.html

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Our Mission

To plan and conduct special operations as a rapid deployment force anywhere in the country specially in the areas of counter-terrorism, hostage rescue, crowd control, and search and rescue and disturbance management in times of national disaster or emergencies.

Our Function

   1. To develop, organize and train organic personnel in the furtherance of the assigned mission.
   2. To conduct counter terrorist operation in urban and rural areas.
   3. To conduct commando type unconventional warfare (CUW) against lawless elements over extended period of time with minimal direction and control.
   4. To conduct search and rescue operations anywhere in the country during calamities and catastrophes.
   5. To conduct civil disturbance management (CDM) operation and address the requirements of stability and security operations in times of civil disobedience on a national scale.
   6. To operate as a rapid deployment force ready and capable to strike anytime and anywhere in the country in support of other units and other agencies as higher headquarters may direct.
   7. To perform other tasks as the Chief PNP may direct.
   8. To maintain a reasonable degree of law and order in the national highways and major thoroughfares


  How is that for a chop-suey function? 
  I think they take #3 very seriously -- with minimal direction and control. The civilians should have known better ...

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Re: What is PNP-SAF's Doctrine?
« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2009, 08:33:24 AM »
Can anyone even define "COMMANDO-TYPE UNCONVENTIONAL WARFARE"?   :lol: :jeez:


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Re: What is PNP-SAF's Doctrine?
« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2009, 10:56:08 AM »
Can anyone even define "COMMANDO-TYPE UNCONVENTIONAL WARFARE"?   :lol: :jeez:

:)

If they can define "full-auto precision fire", then sisiw lang 'yang problema mo.
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Re: What is PNP-SAF's Doctrine?
« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2009, 11:23:49 AM »
:)

If they can define "full-auto precision fire", then sisiw lang 'yang problema mo.


 :lol: why do I have a feeling that it will slowly trickle to that topic...

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Re: What is PNP-SAF's Doctrine?
« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2009, 07:23:30 PM »
Can anyone even define "COMMANDO-TYPE UNCONVENTIONAL WARFARE"?   :lol: :jeez:



Normal Unconventional Warfare = jungle boots
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