Author Topic: Palmas Island (Miangas Island) occupied by Indonesia.  (Read 6936 times)

Firenzi

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1468
Palmas Island (Miangas Island) occupied by Indonesia.
« on: May 05, 2011, 11:55:05 PM »
We should reclaim Palmas Island from Indonesia.








The Island of Palmas Case (or Miangas): Award
The Island of Palmas Case (or Miangas)



United States of America
              versus
     The Netherlands


 AWARD OF THE TRIBUNAL



                            The Hague, 4 April 1928
                          

Arbitrator:                                            

M. Huber                                

Other versions:

Award of the Tribunal (PDF)
Additional documents:

Summary
Table of Contents

AWARD OF THE TRIBUNAL

[831][1]

Special Agreement

Award of the tribunal of arbitration rendered in conformity with the special agreement concluded on January 23, 1925, between the United States of America and the Netherlands relating to the arbitration of differences respecting sovereignty over the Island of Palmas (or Miangas). The Hague, April 4, 1928.

An agreement relating to the arbitration of differences respecting sovereignty over the Island of Palmas (or Miangas) was signed by the United States of America and the Netherlands on January 23rd, 1925. The text of the agreement runs as follows:

The United States of America and Her Majesty the Queen of the Netherlands,

Desiring to terminate in accordance with the principles of International Law and any applicable treaty provisions the differences which have arisen and now subsist between them with respect to the sovereignty over the Island of Palmas (or Miangas) situated approximately fifty miles south-east from Cape San Augustin, Island of Mindanao, at about five degrees and thirty-five minutes (5° 35') north latitude, one hundred and twenty-six degrees and thirty-six minutes (126° 36') longitude east from Greenwich;

Considering that these differences belong to those which, pursuant to Article I of the Arbitration Convention concluded by the two high contracting parties on May 2, 1908, and renewed by agreements, dated May 9, 1914, March 8, 1919, and February 13, 1924, respectively, might well be submitted to arbitration,

Have appointed as their respective plenipotentiaries for the purpose of concluding the following special agreement:

The President of the United States of America: CHARLES EVANS HUGHES, Secretary of State of the United States of America, and

Her Majesty the Queen of the Netherlands: Jonkheer Dr. A. C. D. DE GRAEFF, Her Majesty’s Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary at Washington,

Who, after exhibiting to each other their respective full powers, which were found to be in due and proper form, have agreed upon the following articles:

Article I.

The United States of America and Her Majesty the Queen of the Netherlands hereby [832] agree to refer the decision of the above-mentioned differences to the Permanent Court of Arbitration at The Hague. The arbitral tribunal shall consist of one arbitrator.

The sole duty of the Arbitrator shall be to determine whether the Island of Palmas (or Miangas) in its entirety forms a part of territory belonging to the United States of America or of Netherlands territory.

The two Governments shall designate the Arbitrator from the members of the Permanent Court of Arbitration. If they shall be unable to agree on such designation, they shall unite in requesting the President of the Swiss Confederation to designate the Arbitrator.

Article II.

Within six months after the exchange of ratifications of this special agreement, each Government shall present to the other party two printed copies of a memorandum containing a statement of its contentions and the documents in support thereof. It shall be sufficient for this purpose if the copies aforesaid are delivered by the Government of the United States at the Netherlands Legation at Washington and by the Netherlands Government at the American Legation at The Hague, for transmission. As soon thereafter as possible and within thirty days, each party shall transmit two printed copies of its memorandum to the International Bureau of the Permanent Court of Arbitration for delivery to the Arbitrator.

Within six months after the expiration of the period above fixed for the delivery of the memoranda to the parties, each party may, if it is deemed advisable, transmit to the other two printed copies of a counter-memorandum and any documents in support thereof in answer to the memorandum of the other party. The copies of the counter-memorandum shall be delivered to the parties, and within thirty days thereafter to the Arbitrator, in the manner provided for in the foregoing paragraph respecting the delivery of memoranda.

At the instance of one or both of the parties, the Arbitrator shall have authority, after hearing both parties and for good cause shown, to extend the above-mentioned periods.

Article III.

After the exchange of the counter-memoranda, the case shall be deemed closed unless the Arbitrator applies to either or both of the parties for further written explanations.

In case the Arbitrator makes such a request on either party, he shall do so through the International Bureau of the Permanent Court of Arbitration which shall communicate a copy of his request to the other party. The party addressed shall be allowed for reply three months from the date of the receipt of the Arbitrator’s request, which date shall be at once communicated to the other party and to the International Bureau. Such reply shall be communicated to the other party and within thirty days thereafter to the Arbitrator in the manner provided for above for the delivery of memoranda, and the opposite party may if it is deemed advisable, have a further period of three months to make rejoinder thereto, which shall be communicated in like manner.

The Arbitrator shall notify both parties through the International Bureau of the date [833] upon which, in accordance with the foregoing provisions, the case is closed, so far as the presentation of memoranda and evidence by either party is concerned.

Article IV.

The parties shall be at liberty to use, in the course of arbitration, the English or Netherlands language or the native language of the Arbitrator. If either party uses the English or Netherlands language, a translation into the native language of the Arbitrator shall be furnished if desired by him.

The Arbitrator shall be at liberty to use his native language or the English or Netherlands language in the course of the arbitration and the award and opinion accompanying it may be in any one of those languages.

Article V.

The Arbitrator shall decide any questions of procedure which may arise during the course of the arbitration.

Article VI.

Immediately after the exchange of ratifications of this special agreement each party shall place in the hands of the Arbitrator the sum of one hundred pounds sterling by way of advance of costs.

Article VII.

The Arbitrator shall, within three months after the date upon which he declares the case closed for the presentation of memoranda and evidence, render his award in writing and deposit three signed copies thereof with the International Bureau at The Hague, one copy to be retained by the Bureau and one to be transmitted to each party, as soon as this may be done.

The award shall be accompanied by a statement of the grounds upon which it is based.

The Arbitrator shall fix the amount of the costs of procedure in his award. Each party shall defray its own expenses and half of said costs of procedure and of the honorarium of the Arbitrator.

Article VIII.

The parties undertake to accept the award rendered by the Arbitrator within the limitations of this special agreement, as final and conclusive and without appeal.

All disputes connected with the interpretation and execution of the award shall be submitted to the decision of the Arbitrator.

Article IX.

This special agreement shall be ratified in accordance with the constitutional forms of the contracting parties and shall take effect immediately upon the exchange of ratifications, which shall take place as soon as possible at Washington. [834] In witness whereof the respective plenipotentiaries have signed this special agreement and have hereunto affixed their seals.

Done in duplicate in the City of Washington in the English and Netherlands languages this 23rd day of January, 1925.

(L. S.) CHARLES EVANS HUGHES.
(L. S.) DE GRAEFF.

I.

The ratifications of the above agreement (hereafter called the Special Agreement) were exchanged at Washington on April 1st, 1925. By letters dated September 29th, 1925, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Her Majesty the Queen of the Netherlands and the Minister of the United States of America at The Hague asked the undersigned, MAX HUBER, of Zurich (Switzerland), member of the Permanent Court of Arbitration, whether he would be disposed to accept the mandate to act as sole arbitrator under the Special Agreement of January 23rd, 1925. The undersigned informed the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Netherlands and the Minister of the United States of America at The Hague that he was willing to accept the task.

On October 16th and 23rd, 1925, the International Bureau of the Permanent Court of Arbitration transmitted to the Arbitrator the Memoranda of the United States of America2 and the Netherlands3 with the documents in support thereof. On April 23rd and 24th, 1926, the Counter-memoranda of the Netherlands4 and the United States of America5 with documents in support thereof were transmitted to the Arbitrator through the International Bureau.


Pls read further on below web link :

http://www.haguejusticeportal.net/eCache/DEF/5/184.html

" Unhappy is the land that needs a hero "

" All Religion must be tolerated, for every man must get to Heaven in his own way. "

"Being gullible by supporting the corrupted status quo, is tragic.

" The radical of one century is the conservative of the next.  The radical invents the views. When he has worn them out, the conservative adopts them."
                    - Mark Twain  "

Firenzi

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1468
Re: Palmas Island (Miangas Island) occupied by Indonesia.
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2011, 11:58:14 PM »

Map of the vicinity of Palmas / Miangas island.



Dutch Map of 1898











" Unhappy is the land that needs a hero "

" All Religion must be tolerated, for every man must get to Heaven in his own way. "

"Being gullible by supporting the corrupted status quo, is tragic.

" The radical of one century is the conservative of the next.  The radical invents the views. When he has worn them out, the conservative adopts them."
                    - Mark Twain  "

Firenzi

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1468
Re: Palmas Island (Miangas Island) occupied by Indonesia.
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2011, 12:00:04 AM »






Palmas island now known as Miangas island or Pulo Miangas and occupied by Indonesia.


Please see also the below blog :


Palmas Island (now renamed Miangas) one of the Philippines lost territory.



http://jibraelangel2blog.blogspot.com/2011/05/palmas-island-now-renamed-miangas-one.html

« Last Edit: May 06, 2011, 12:02:59 AM by Firenzi »
" Unhappy is the land that needs a hero "

" All Religion must be tolerated, for every man must get to Heaven in his own way. "

"Being gullible by supporting the corrupted status quo, is tragic.

" The radical of one century is the conservative of the next.  The radical invents the views. When he has worn them out, the conservative adopts them."
                    - Mark Twain  "

Firenzi

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1468
" Unhappy is the land that needs a hero "

" All Religion must be tolerated, for every man must get to Heaven in his own way. "

"Being gullible by supporting the corrupted status quo, is tragic.

" The radical of one century is the conservative of the next.  The radical invents the views. When he has worn them out, the conservative adopts them."
                    - Mark Twain  "

troll

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 508
Re: Palmas Island (Miangas Island) occupied by Indonesia.
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2011, 12:12:11 AM »
hahahaha ONE by ONE , PIECE BY PIECE  :lol: :lol: :lol: give it all to them


the next time we will see ZULU or tawi tawi own by Malaysia  :lol: :lol: :lol:

or maybe GenSan will be part of indonesia

The next time you will see our fisherman being chased by indonesian navy due to entering their own territorial water oh they will lost their own precious tuna. 
« Last Edit: May 06, 2011, 12:17:53 AM by troll »

Firenzi

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1468
Re: Palmas Island (Miangas Island) occupied by Indonesia.
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2011, 12:14:24 AM »
PALMAS  ARBITRATION REVISITED
  by H. Harry L Roque Jr.


I. INTRODUCTION

In 1994, the Phhppines and Indonesia held its first ever Senior Officials
Meeting on the Delimitation of the Maritime Boundary between the two States.
Official representatives agreed that both countries would d e h t the
location between 120" and 129" 30" East Longitude.' Thts includes the area of the
Pldppines and Indonesia where the island of Palmas may be found.
The officials agreed that the following general principles shall serve as basis
for negotiations:

a) ''. . .to acheve result fully in keeping with international law
mcludmg the 1982 United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea
(UNCLOS)Z;

b) . . . where applicable, the mantime boundaries between
the two countries shall be d e h t e d on the basis of the medan h e
principle;

c) The two delegations, copzant of their friendly and warm relauonship between their governments and people, agreed to use creative options as appropriate.3"
second bilateral consultation between the two countries was held on 9
November 2000. The discussion was exploratory4 and no further agreements were
forged.

Pls read further on below web site :

http://law.upd.edu.ph/plj/images/files/PLJ%20volume%2077/PLJ%20volume%2077%20number%204%20-01-%20Prof.%20H.%20Harry%20L.%20Roque,%20Jr%20-%20Palmas%20Arbitration%20Revisited.pdf


'
« Last Edit: May 06, 2011, 12:16:54 AM by Firenzi »
" Unhappy is the land that needs a hero "

" All Religion must be tolerated, for every man must get to Heaven in his own way. "

"Being gullible by supporting the corrupted status quo, is tragic.

" The radical of one century is the conservative of the next.  The radical invents the views. When he has worn them out, the conservative adopts them."
                    - Mark Twain  "

Jag

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 159
Re: Palmas Island (Miangas Island) occupied by Indonesia.
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2011, 12:39:44 AM »
naku po not again baka bukas minadanao ang wala sa pinas

caliber38

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 295
Re: Palmas Island (Miangas Island) occupied by Indonesia.
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2011, 12:48:14 AM »
hahahaha ONE by ONE , PIECE BY PIECE  :lol: :lol: :lol: give it all to them


the next time we will see ZULU or tawi tawi own by Malaysia  :lol: :lol: :lol:

or maybe GenSan will be part of indonesia

The next time you will see our fisherman being chased by indonesian navy due to entering their own territorial water oh they will lost their own precious tuna. 

That won't happen 'coz those areas are already inhabited by Filipino citizens and have Filipino officials. Besides, if Malaysia gets Sulu, Tawi-tawi and Basilan, the Abu Sayyaf is their problem now. Good riddance. :lol: Also, Indonesia knows where we're allowed to fish and where we're not. We have encounters with Malaysia (mostly immigrant-related), and China (obviously) but encounters with the Indonesia are very seldom, as there are barely any islands there, and obviously, Malaysia is richer than Indonesia, so Malaysia is a more feasible choice for illegal immigrants. :lol:

naku po not again baka bukas minadanao ang wala sa pinas

Ano ba? I already said to troll that that won't happen unless for some reason, Indonesia declares war on us. Those areas are already inhabited by Philippine citizens and have Philippine governments.

Both your statements are not likely, like those texts after the hostage fiasco that said Hong Kong declared war on us. Those are statements made by unknowns, not defense bloggers. :jeez:
Stuff in the pipeline:
More WHECs
More MPACs
MRV
155mm howitzers
81mm mortars
60mm mortars
Next delivery of Sokols

troll

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 508
Re: Palmas Island (Miangas Island) occupied by Indonesia.
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2011, 12:57:50 AM »
I know that it wont be those act that will provoke into declaration of war. but is this thing will be OK with US it means we are considering this act? Then what is the use of those paper matters and legalities if we cant exercise our own rights on this things.  this simply tells that they tolerate this act.


If malaysia get SULU and tawi-tawi malaysia has no problem dealing with them. they have lots of things to use to dispose them. and malaysia will not hesitate to do that against them. 
« Last Edit: May 06, 2011, 01:01:33 AM by troll »

caliber38

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 295
Re: Palmas Island (Miangas Island) occupied by Indonesia.
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2011, 01:22:38 AM »
I know that it wont be those act that will provoke into declaration of war. but is this thing will be OK with US it means we are considering this act? Then what is the use of those paper matters and legalities if we cant exercise our own rights on this things.  this simply tells that they tolerate this act.


If malaysia get SULU and tawi-tawi malaysia has no problem dealing with them. they have lots of things to use to dispose them. and malaysia will not hesitate to do that against them. 

America is tolerating this because they think that this is a matter we should sort amongst ourselves. (as in, our neighbors)

Fighting insurgents is not completely dependent on how much equipment one side has in its disposal. That's one of the reasons why we still have the NPA.  Our pilots are nearly as accurate as smart bombs when making sorties, so even if Malaysia uses smart bombs, they'll still be in almost the same situation as us.
Stuff in the pipeline:
More WHECs
More MPACs
MRV
155mm howitzers
81mm mortars
60mm mortars
Next delivery of Sokols

Firenzi

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1468
Re: Palmas Island (Miangas Island) occupied by Indonesia.
« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2011, 04:06:19 PM »

Miangas: Flashpoint island between RP and Indonesia

The Philippines’ strategic and unique archipelagic location in Southeast Asia may have spared the country border wars that faced many of its neighbors in the region but it also gave this former Spanish and, later, American colony plenty of tense diplomatic rows over her territorial claims with the rest of its neighboring countries in Asia.

On the western side lies the vast chain of islands which China, Vietnam, Malaysia and Taiwan are claiming as part of their territories.

The Philippines is claiming ownership over the Kalayaan group of islands and several atolls, known also as the Spratly group of islands, west of Palawan.

Down south, the Philippines has not yet abandoned its claim over Sabah which is now part of Malaysia.

Historical records have pointed that Sabah was once part of the territory of the Sultanate Sulu leased to the British Empire which in turn ceded it to Malaysia after granting independence to the later.

The Philippines has another little known claim over a tiny island, 3.17 square kilometers to be exact, in the south with a population of 750 residents.

The island, which is just 77 kilometers away from the farthest point in Davao Oriental, is called Miangas Island and is also know in the international maps as Palmas Island.

When the Philippine drew its tourism map in 2009, Miangas was included in its claim.

The new Philippine tourism map immediately drew reaction from the Indonesian government.

Indonesian Marine and Fisheries Minister Freddy Numberi said Miangas Island in North Sulawesi belongs to Indonesia and had already been registered with the United Nations as one of the country’s outermost islands.

Early Philippine maps drawn by the Spanish colonizers are said to include the disputed island and was also included in the Philippine colony that Spain sold (ceded) to the United States for US$20,000,000 under the Treaty of Paris.

The Netherlands, former colonizer of Indonesia, however, also claimed Miangas as part of its then territory in Southeast Asia.

In 1925, both the US and the Netherlands submitted the case for arbitration in which The Permanent Court of Arbitration in The Hague ruled in favor of the Dutch government.

Indonesian Consul General in Davao Lalu Malik Patarwana warned that “if Miangas and Marore islands are annexed by the Philippines it will pose a threat to the integrity of the Unitary State of the Republic of Indonesia.”

Marore Island, from where most of the Indonesian nationals now assimilated into different villages in Sarangani as well as Davao del Sur, is an even smaller island and closer to Mindanao than Miangas.

In 2008, Mindanao Economic Development Council chair Virgilio Leyretana cautioned local journalists in General Santos City from tackling the issue as it has far-ranging economic and security implications for Mindanao and the country as well.

In 2007, Indonesian journalist Andreas Harsono even listed the Miangas Island as the one Mindanao area he had gone to during a workshop of Southeast Asian journalists held in Davao’s Eden Nature Park (http://asiancorrespondent.com/edwin-espejo/archives/7).

Harsono said the Indonesian government was then planning to build an airstrip in Miangas Island.

This was confirmed North Sulawesi governor S. M. Sarundajang during my brief visit in November 2008.

That airstrip is now in existence and the Indonesian government has already established a shipping route to the island.

The Indonesian and Philippine governments have established a joint border patrol base in Miangas, with the Philippines stationing a contingent of Philippine Marines and coast guard authorities.

In 2008, when then Philippine Senator Benigno Aquino III was commencement speaker of the Mindanao State University, this author brought to his attention the plans of the Indonesian government to build an airstrip on Miangas Island as possible diplomatic flashpoint between the country and Indonesia.

Aquino, now president of the Philippines, was then unaware of the Indonesian plan and was more concerned over the Spratly Islands.

Miangas, along with Marore Island, has strategic economic value to the Philippines as it is located inside the 200-mile exclusive economic zone (EEZ) of the country. 

At 77 kilometers away from Mati, Davao Oriental, it is closer to the Philippines than Indonesia, while the nearest island from Miangas is 232 kilometers (from the Nanusa Island of North Sulawesi).

Trade and commerce in Miangas is also dependent on Mindanao with residents in the island having more affinity with its Mindanao neighbors. In July 2005, people in the island flew the Philippine flag to protest “the behavior of local police” and the little attention they were reportedly getting from the Indonesian government (http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-134350513.html).

Miangas is also in the middle of the migratory path of tuna, a vital economic activity in Southern Mindanao.

It is along this migratory path that hundreds of Filipino fishermen were apprehended for “encroaching and illegally fishing in Indonesian waters.”

This overlapping EEZ has been a serious concern among Filipino tuna producers over the past decade.

The Miangas Island row could as well become a diplomatic flashpoint between Indonesia and the Philippines in the future.

http://asiancorrespondent.com/39839/miangas-flashpoint-island-between-rp-and-indonesia/
" Unhappy is the land that needs a hero "

" All Religion must be tolerated, for every man must get to Heaven in his own way. "

"Being gullible by supporting the corrupted status quo, is tragic.

" The radical of one century is the conservative of the next.  The radical invents the views. When he has worn them out, the conservative adopts them."
                    - Mark Twain  "

Firenzi

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1468
Re: Palmas Island (Miangas Island) occupied by Indonesia.
« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2011, 08:17:19 PM »
What is the difference between the Philippines Base Line
and the Indonesian Baseline ?



Last week, Indonesia deposited the list of coordinates of its archipelagic baselines
to the United Nations. It was for the first time since its archipelagic baselines was
designated, Indonesia deposits its baseline.


The seed of Indonesia’s archipelagic baselines was proposed in 1960 through Law
No. 4/Prp/1960. The Law was then replaced by a new Law No. 6/1996 followed by
the stipulation of the Government Regulation No. 31/1998 on baselines around
Natuna Island.

In 2002, Indonesia stipulated a new Government Regulation on archipelagic
baseline No. 38/2002. However, the 2002 regulation does not fully enclose
Indonesian archipelago and leaves a gap around Timor Island. In addition, the
2002 regulation includes Sipadan and Ligitan within Indonsian territory. To solve
these problems,
Indonesia stipulated a new government regulation No. 37/2008. This completes
the pending issues in the 2002 regulation.

Baselines that Indonesia deposited to the UN last week is the completed baseline
enclosing the whole Indoensian archipelago as shown in figure above. The KMZ
version of the baseline can be downloaded here, while the points and their
description can be obtained here.



Indonesia's Base Line








The difference between Indonesian Baseline and the Philippine Baseline is that
the Philippines adapted the "Regime of Islands" scheme instead of incorporating
the Kalayaan Islands Group to the Philippine territory.


Indonesia never adapted the "Regime of Islands" scheme to Miangas Islands
which name is Palmas islands and inside the Territory of Spain transferred to
U.S. in the Treaty of Peace of 1898

At present the boundary between Indonesia and the Philippines is the middle line
between Palmas Island / Miangas Island and Cape San Agustin of Davao Province.




The ex Pres. GMA, Miriam S, and other politicians who supported the exclusion of
our Kalayaan Islands Group to our Baseline Law and included in the "Regime of Islands"
should be deported to China or Mongolia since they were under PRC chinese payroll.
Mga Taksil sa Bayan.

« Last Edit: May 09, 2011, 08:49:36 PM by Firenzi »
" Unhappy is the land that needs a hero "

" All Religion must be tolerated, for every man must get to Heaven in his own way. "

"Being gullible by supporting the corrupted status quo, is tragic.

" The radical of one century is the conservative of the next.  The radical invents the views. When he has worn them out, the conservative adopts them."
                    - Mark Twain  "

Hussar

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1676
  • I love the smell of napalm in the morning!
Re: Palmas Island (Miangas Island) occupied by Indonesia.
« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2011, 01:42:10 PM »
Here's an article from a Jakarta-based journalist on the life and outlook of Miangas...


Miangas, nationalism and isolation
by Andreas Harsono

How do the islanders of Miangas view nationalism in the Indonesia-Philippines border island?

If you want to find an island in this globally-wired world where there is no telephone line nor cell phone signal, where you can isolate yourself, sometimes for three consecutive months, with electricity between 6pm and 2am only, yet with a clean neighborhood, zero crime rate, running water, fresh air and indeed, gorgeous beaches, I advise you to visit Miangas Island, a small Indonesian isle, near Cape San Agustin in the southern Philippines.

One week prior to Indonesia’s first direct presidential election in September 2004, I took a two-night trip to Miangas from Manado in northern Sulawesi, on board the KM Ratu Maria motorboat. A government office chartered her to deliver election ballot papers to Miangas. I paid my ticket and boarded the boat. Usually passengers have to jump from island to island for about one week, to travel from Manado to Miangas, or else to wait for the KM Daraki Nusa, a state-subsidized ship, which heads for Miangas every 10 days from Bitung, a harbor near Manado. My trip was pleasant, with good seafood and calm seas, though I had to kill dozens of little cockroaches that inhabited my cabin. We also stopped in five harbors, which include Lirung, Melonguane, Beo, Essang and Karatung, which are parts of the Talaud-language area.

Read more here: http://andreasharsono.blogspot.com/2004/11/miangas-nationalism-and-isolation.html
Filipinos want beauty. I have to look beautiful so that the poor Filipinos will have a star to look at from their slums. - Imelda Marcos

Throwing out the tyrant was the easy part.  Fixing the mess he left behind was going to take time. - Benjamin Pimentel

Hussar

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1676
  • I love the smell of napalm in the morning!
Re: Palmas Island (Miangas Island) occupied by Indonesia.
« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2011, 01:46:00 PM »
I also found some interesting images from Miangas and Marore Islands.  It seems we got these "little embassies" out there on the fringes of Indonesia:




Credits to David Vilabella
Filipinos want beauty. I have to look beautiful so that the poor Filipinos will have a star to look at from their slums. - Imelda Marcos

Throwing out the tyrant was the easy part.  Fixing the mess he left behind was going to take time. - Benjamin Pimentel

Jag

  • Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 159
Re: Palmas Island (Miangas Island) occupied by Indonesia.
« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2011, 11:04:37 PM »
I also found some interesting images from Miangas and Marore Islands.  It seems we got these "little embassies" out there on the fringes of Indonesia:




Credits to David Vilabella

Pilipino pa b ang nakatira dyan ????