Author Topic: Retitled - SRDP opportunity : Offshore Patrol Vessels  (Read 71595 times)

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Re: FBO solicitation for Offshore Patrol Vessel on behalf of PH
« Reply #150 on: November 17, 2011, 09:51:02 PM »
More interesting still is at the end, a range of cost for OPVs, depending on size, weapons fit. Your basic 85m OPV with a decent sensor and weapons fit (e.g quoted in the FBO) would weigh in around USD 80 - 100 million.

http://www.offshorepatrolvessels.com/uploadedFiles/EventRedesign/UK/2011/September/11313005/Assets/IGC_11313.005%20-%20OC47%20-%20STX-M%20Presentation%20at%20OPV%20Singapore%20-%20april%202011.pdf

Cropping the conclusion of the above presentation for easier/better appreciation of this thread.
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Re: FBO solicitation for Offshore Patrol Vessel on behalf of PH
« Reply #151 on: December 09, 2011, 01:12:12 AM »
Here's an entry on CG Blog regarding this FBO.  Nothing new, except a few comments and analysis.
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Re: FBO solicitation for Offshore Patrol Vessel on behalf of PH
« Reply #152 on: January 02, 2012, 09:26:06 AM »
Here's an entry on CG Blog regarding this FBO.  Nothing new, except a few comments and analysis.


Take a look at the National Security Cutter's proposed Frigate Incarnation :

http://www.dodbuzz.com/2011/04/13/the-phantom-frigate/

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Huntington Ingalls Industries may now be a separate company from its former parent Northrop Grumman, but some things never change: This week, as it has for years, exhibitors used their booth at the Sea Air Space trade show to promote a concept that the new company officials still hope could be a big new moneymaker for the Ingalls yard in Pascagoula, Miss.: A badass naval version of the comparatively tame National Security Cutter now in use with the Coast Guard.

The concept used to be called the “National Patrol Frigate,” but now HII is just calling it “the Patrol Frigate” — hear that, international customers? — and unlike the Coast Guard’s production version, this thing would be armed to the teeth. In addition to the main gun forward (possibly the same 57mm gun on the Coast Guard’s ships and Navy’s littoral combat ships, but not necessarily) it could have vertical launch cell for missiles, Harpoon missiles on the faintail, and even a SeaRAM launcher on the deckhouse above the helo hangars. The ship would even carry an Aegis SPY-1F radar on its main mast. All this hardware would make one of these things practically a pocket battleship, in today’s terms, given the 4,500-ton National Security Cutter hull.



Read more: http://www.dodbuzz.com/2011/04/13/the-phantom-frigate/#ixzz1iJniHmV1
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While the NSC and HII is not in the list (or are they) of interested contractors, who knows, given that this FBO appears close to the NSC's frigate incarnation.

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Re: FBO solicitation for Offshore Patrol Vessel on behalf of PH
« Reply #153 on: January 02, 2012, 04:28:58 PM »
From the time table of the RFI, it was likely that our solicitation was expected to dogtail on the US Coast Guard -Offshore Patrol Cutter program, which is yet on the process of being refined.  The USCG program is not expected to generate a final RFQ for another year or two.  Their program provides for the proposed acquisition of 25 units to replace their existing medium endurance cutter -- sized between the National Security Cutter (NSC) and the 154-footer Fast Response Cutter (FRC).

As of Oct 2011, affordability has become one of their main design consideration because of the current economic concerns in the US.  Among the items considered are building them to 'commercial methods', and doing away with gas turbine engines and a stern-launch system for small boats.  Take note that last item is one on our FBO.


US Coast Guard OPC Acquisition Homepage


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Re: FBO solicitation for Offshore Patrol Vessel on behalf of PH
« Reply #154 on: August 05, 2012, 09:46:48 PM »
If this particular effort moves ahead, and this FBO effort holds true, we could be looking at 18 made-in-the-PH boats

http://www.timawa.net/forum/index.php?topic=32506.0
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Re: FBO solicitation for Offshore Patrol Vessel on behalf of PH
« Reply #155 on: August 06, 2012, 12:09:05 AM »
If this particular effort moves ahead, and this FBO effort holds true, we could be looking at 18 made-in-the-PH boats

http://www.timawa.net/forum/index.php?topic=32506.0

Is it possible that the 18 OPV and 12 corvettes could share a common hull design? If that's the case then we could possibly build 30 ships in our country.

Since one of the FBO-OPV requirement is the following:

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r. Ship should have space available for the future growth for SAM, SSM and ECM as well as towed array sonar equipment

can we maximize this requirement for the Corvette configuration?

Furthermore, can our PCG participate with the FBO so that they could share at least a scaled down sister class of the FBO design in order to increase commonality between the PCG and PN vessels.

Well, this post of sir israeli gave me this idea.

from IHC Merwede, the Dutch company that built Royal New Zealand Navy's Canterbury class MRV comes the Falcon class OPV/Cutter/Corvette design. :)


-- IHC Merwede's Falcon class design in OPV/cutter configuration.


-- IHC Merwede's Falcon class design in corvette configuration.
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Re: FBO solicitation for Offshore Patrol Vessel on behalf of PH
« Reply #156 on: August 06, 2012, 01:33:54 AM »
How about specifications concerns? OPV's are usually civ-spec. If the PN based their corvettes on this model, is their corvette version mil-spec of just a grey, uparmed civ-spec ship? Survivability should be considered for the corvettes and not just design and compatibility.

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Re: FBO solicitation for Offshore Patrol Vessel on behalf of PH
« Reply #157 on: August 28, 2012, 10:26:26 AM »
Question., with the contrators listed on the "interested Vendors List" in the FBO link; does this mean that the plans for OPVs is still ongoing?

Quite fascinating when Raytheon and BAE systems are listed on such  :D


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Re: FBO solicitation for Offshore Patrol Vessel on behalf of PH
« Reply #159 on: September 24, 2012, 11:29:57 PM »
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Re: FBO solicitation for Offshore Patrol Vessel on behalf of PH
« Reply #160 on: September 29, 2012, 09:36:40 PM »
according to a Janes article posted by Vermonter over at PDFF, the Philippines will be acquiring 10 55-meter OPVs.

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Re: FBO solicitation for Offshore Patrol Vessel on behalf of PH
« Reply #161 on: September 30, 2012, 11:26:31 PM »
according to a Janes article posted by Vermonter over at PDFF, the Philippines will be acquiring 10 55-meter OPVs.

that's probably the Philippine Coast Guard's procurement (with the help of Japan). the PN is looking for something larger and heavier- and looking to get 18 of them.....
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Re: FBO solicitation for Offshore Patrol Vessel on behalf of PH
« Reply #162 on: October 01, 2012, 12:59:47 AM »
that's probably the Philippine Coast Guard's procurement (with the help of Japan). the PN is looking for something larger and heavier- and looking to get 18 of them.....

Palagay ko tama ang PN, malalaki rin kasi ang surveilance ships ng china eh ... ang hilig pa nilang mangbanga, kahit yung fishing boats nila nambabanga eh ... ginawa nila sa Japan dati yon eh. ... even sa atin.

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Re: FBO solicitation for Offshore Patrol Vessel on behalf of PH
« Reply #163 on: October 03, 2012, 06:00:50 AM »
Discussions about the challenges in funding the 15-year shipbuilding plan have been moved here:

http://www.timawa.net/forum/index.php?topic=33144.0

Lets keep this thread on track gents.
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Re: Retitled - SRDP opportunity : Offshore Patrol Vessels
« Reply #164 on: February 01, 2013, 03:18:18 PM »
If we go by the information collected from the semi-deactivated Patrol Force Website, any new OPVs that we acquire for this project will replace the long-overdue-for-retirement PCEs, and add an additional 9 hulls for the planned total of 18 OPVs.

Arguably, the Jacinto class boats will shoulder on for a few more years.


PHILIPPINE NAVY
PATROL FORCE SQUADRONS
Coastal Patrol Sqn
OPV Squadron
Frigate Squadron
Mariano Alvarez (PS-38)
Gen. Emilio Aguinaldo (PG-140)
Gen. Antonio Luna (PG-141)
Bagong Lakas (PG-102)
Bagong Silang (PG-104)
Boni Serrano (PG-111)
Bienvinido Salting (PG-112)
Salvadaro Abcede (PG-114)
Nicolas Mahusay (PG-116)
Dionisio Ojeda (PG-117)
Emilio Liwanag (PG-118)
Leopoldo Regis (PG-847)
Apollo Tiano (PG-851)
Sulpicio Fernandez (PG-853)
Emilio Jacinto (PS-35)
Apolinario Mabini (PS-36)
Artemio Ricarte (PS-37)
Miguel Malvar (PS-19)
Magat Salamat (PS-20)
Sultan Kudarat (PS-22)
Cebu (PS-28)
Pangasinan (PS-31)
Iloilo (PS-32)

Gregorio Del Pilar (PF-15)
Rajah Humabon (PF-11)
Quezon (PS-70)
Rizal (PS-74)

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