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Re: Multi-Role Vessel (MRV) developments
« Reply #150 on: November 24, 2012, 07:33:43 AM »
@Lionflyer, your country's Endurance class is classified by your navy as an LST...but when they sold a modified unit (without a opening bows) to the Royal Thai Navy, it's been classified as an LPD. Only major thing missing between RSN and RTN model is that opening bow.

In a way, the our navy is calling it an "MRV" so to speak since it sounds "politically interesting" and "politically worth buying" than an LPD since our military's promise is for it to do "multi-roles" like disaster assistance, mobile hospital, relief good delivery ship, OFW transporter in crisis-torn workplaces, and search & rescue platform, in addition to its primary purpose of bringing in troops to combat.

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Re: Multi-Role Vessel (MRV) developments
« Reply #151 on: November 24, 2012, 08:15:28 AM »
A ship with that peacetime and wartime role sells itself as a good buy.

Imagine having the capability to sealift OFWs from Libya or elsewhere in the world when and where they are needed.
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Re: Multi-Role Vessel (MRV) developments
« Reply #152 on: November 29, 2012, 07:08:11 AM »
Aquino, Cabinet approve P113-B worth of infrastructure projects

http://business.inquirer.net/95745/aquino-cabinet-approve-p113-b-worth-of-infrastructure-projects

The rest were the P1.14-billion Albay West Coast Road Project (2014-2016); P2.1-billion Tacloban Airport Redevelopment Project (2013-2016); P8.8-billion Acquisition of Multi-Role Response vessels (2012-2016); P8.87-billion Mactan, Cebu Airport Terminal (Phase 1, 2014-2016); P1.7-billion Contactless Automatic Fare Collection System; P68-million Component A of the Convergence on Chain Enhancement for Rural Growth and Empowerment (2013-2019); P7.39-billion Extension of the Mindanao Rural Development Project 2 (2012-2014); P1.16-billion Rehabilitation of Angat Hydroelectric Plant Turbines 4 and 5  (2013-2014); and P13.14- billion School Infrastructure Project covering 10,679 classrooms  (2013-2014).

Could this be it for MRV's? 

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Re: Multi-Role Vessel (MRV) developments
« Reply #153 on: November 29, 2012, 07:41:11 AM »
you beat me to posting it :) anyway any confirmation from the mods???
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Re: Multi-Role Vessel (MRV) developments
« Reply #154 on: November 29, 2012, 07:44:49 AM »
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P8.8-billion Acquisition of Multi-Role Response vessels (2012-2016)

scratch the 2012 its almost the end of the year now... hehehehehe
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Re: Multi-Role Vessel (MRV) developments
« Reply #155 on: November 29, 2012, 09:04:44 AM »
More likely it's for the PCG. So this is OT from this point onwards.

PHP 8.8 billion total looks close in a Philstar.com report http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2012/07/07/825268/phl-eyes-p7-b-loan-japan

"...The NEDA-ICC said the total project cost was estimated at P7.37 billion based on a Nov. 11, 2011 feasibility study..."

plus the required counterpart of PHL govt at PHP 1.5 Billion found at DOTC's 2013 budget for foreign-assisted projects at page 5:  http://www.dbm.gov.ph/wp-content/uploads/NEP2013/XXIII/DOTC.pdf


Aquino, Cabinet approve P113-B worth of infrastructure projects

http://business.inquirer.net/95745/aquino-cabinet-approve-p113-b-worth-of-infrastructure-projects

The rest were the P1.14-billion Albay West Coast Road Project (2014-2016); P2.1-billion Tacloban Airport Redevelopment Project (2013-2016); P8.8-billion Acquisition of Multi-Role Response vessels (2012-2016); P8.87-billion Mactan, Cebu Airport Terminal (Phase 1, 2014-2016); P1.7-billion Contactless Automatic Fare Collection System; P68-million Component A of the Convergence on Chain Enhancement for Rural Growth and Empowerment (2013-2019); P7.39-billion Extension of the Mindanao Rural Development Project 2 (2012-2014); P1.16-billion Rehabilitation of Angat Hydroelectric Plant Turbines 4 and 5  (2013-2014); and P13.14- billion School Infrastructure Project covering 10,679 classrooms  (2013-2014).

Could this be it for MRV's?
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Re: Multi-Role Vessel (MRV) developments
« Reply #156 on: November 29, 2012, 04:05:46 PM »
Thanks for the correlative analysis, @Herbie.  :thumbsup:   You are correct that this is OT for this thread... as the NEDA approval pertains to the Japanese Patrol Boats being discussed here....

Re: Retitled: Japanese patrol boats
http://www.timawa.net/forum/index.php?topic=30787.msg337162#msg337162



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« Reply #157 on: November 29, 2012, 05:28:30 PM »

MRV has been renamed Strategic Sealift Vessel (SSV), right?

Those Japanese PBs, they were supposed to be acquired from loans in that Philstar report.
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Re: Multi-Role Vessel (MRV) developments
« Reply #158 on: December 10, 2012, 07:57:42 PM »
I hope lessons learned from TS Sendong and Pablo would force our planners to expedite the acquisition of the planned MRVs or SSVs. We really need this vessels especially for disaster relief.  :(

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Re: Multi-Role Vessel (MRV) developments
« Reply #159 on: December 28, 2012, 03:59:35 AM »
Filipino lawmaker wants two new Navy hospital ships acquired

...Rep. Mel Senen Sarmiento of Western Samar, in central Philippines, said the vessels could be used as deployable medical evacuation facility and could double as a control center during emergencies, especially during typhoons.
“The idea of having this type of ship,” he explained, “is to equip the Navy with facilities that can alternately be used as a military transport vessel, floating hospital or on-site crisis management command center whenever a big disaster occurs.”
He disclosed that the inclusion of his initial proposal in the Navy’s modernization priorities to own only one hospital ship was assured after the top naval officials supported the idea and promised to allot funds for it....

..Estimates place the cost of the two strategic sealift vessels (SSVs) at P4 billion (US$95 million), one of which is already scheduled for acquisition under the P10 billion (US$238 million) fund earmarked by Aquino in 2011...

Only recently, President Aquino signed the new AFP Modernization Act, also known as Republic Act 10349, which allots an additional of P75 billion (US$1.785 billion) over the next fifteen years, on top of the P28 million (US$666.6 million) that was already released since he assumed office in June 2010.
The promised new fresh money for military muscle was announced by the President last December 22, during the 77th anniversary celebration of the Armed Forces.


http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/339786?cid=dlvr.it#ixzz2GEKesYqB


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Re: Multi-Role Vessel (MRV) developments
« Reply #160 on: December 28, 2012, 07:46:00 AM »
Filipino lawmaker wants two new Navy hospital ships acquired

...Rep. Mel Senen Sarmiento of Western Samar, in central Philippines, said the vessels could be used as deployable medical evacuation facility and could double as a control center during emergencies, especially during typhoons.
“The idea of having this type of ship,” he explained, “is to equip the Navy with facilities that can alternately be used as a military transport vessel, floating hospital or on-site crisis management command center whenever a big disaster occurs.”
He disclosed that the inclusion of his initial proposal in the Navy’s modernization priorities to own only one hospital ship was assured after the top naval officials supported the idea and promised to allot funds for it....


..Estimates place the cost of the two strategic sealift vessels (SSVs) at P4 billion (US$95 million), one of which is already scheduled for acquisition under the P10 billion (US$238 million) fund earmarked by Aquino in 2011...

Only recently, President Aquino signed the new AFP Modernization Act, also known as Republic Act 10349, which allots an additional of P75 billion (US$1.785 billion) over the next fifteen years, on top of the P28 million (US$666.6 million) that was already released since he assumed office in June 2010.
The promised new fresh money for military muscle was announced by the President last December 22, during the 77th anniversary celebration of the Armed Forces.


http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/339786?cid=dlvr.it#ixzz2GEKesYqB

 :jeez:

Dumbass congressman.

How about spending your pork money on healthcare and disaster management in your province, instead of relying on the navy to do what civilian organizations should be doing in the first place?

Who the hell votes for these twats?

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Re: Multi-Role Vessel (MRV) developments
« Reply #161 on: December 28, 2012, 08:50:37 AM »
:jeez:

Dumbass congressman.

How about spending your pork money on healthcare and disaster management in your province, instead of relying on the navy to do what civilian organizations should be doing in the first place?

Who the hell votes for these twats?

disaster relief and crisis management IS a mandate of the armed forces of the philippines, so a proposal by a congressman to supply our navy with the said equipment is not dumb at all. it is good to know some lawmakers are trying to beef up the AFP's capability to serve their constitutional purpose.

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Re: Multi-Role Vessel (MRV) developments
« Reply #162 on: December 28, 2012, 09:48:02 AM »

A brilliant Congressman after all. Committing billions of funds have to be justified with such benefits as combat and peacetime roles particularly since we have prevalent typhoons.

This would also complement our amphibious capability with those of friendly navies now acquiring maritime platforms like the RAN's newly acquired Landing Helicopter Docks (LHD) cum VSTOL carrier.
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Re: Multi-Role Vessel (MRV) developments
« Reply #163 on: December 28, 2012, 11:13:19 AM »
disaster relief and crisis management IS a mandate of the armed forces of the philippines, so a proposal by a congressman to supply our navy with the said equipment is not dumb at all. it is good to know some lawmakers are trying to beef up the AFP's capability to serve their constitutional purpose.

I disagree, roundly. While disaster relief and crisis management is a mandate, it is the civilian sector that should take the lead in these things. To impose these on the armed forces is to hobble them from performing their main purpose, that of national defense. If they want a hospital ship and command center, they can take it up with the civilian component such as the DILG, DOH, or even the PCG. If anything, the military assets should be a last resort when all civilian resources are maximized, even in peacetime conditions. And with the pork barrel budget that Congress receives, citizens have every right to expect that these funds should be used with disaster relief factored in. Otherwise, modernization is just a diversion.

To cite Hurrican Katrina, Fukushima, and other large disasters illustrates my point: The military was called in as a complement to the resolution of the crisis, not the lead, and only because the civilian infrastructure was maximized.

Congress shouldn't ever hold military procurement as a hostage to "dual purpose" articles.

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« Reply #164 on: December 28, 2012, 11:28:29 AM »
If they want a hospital ship and command center, they can take it up with the civilian component such as the DILG, DOH, or even the PCG.

In the original proposal, the MRV was actually going to be a multi-department asset. The PN would operate it, but it would be available for purposes listed by the congressman.

Presumably, these other departments would be pitching in to fund the operation of the vessel. Personally, am all for getting other departments involved in defense.
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