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Re: Refurbished UH-1 (21 units)
« Reply #60 on: November 28, 2012, 09:24:41 AM »
With this plan of acquiring 21 refurbished UH-1H, this bidding process is just a formality. Based on some posts in threads discussed here, we have sent teams to look for sources. I have once stumbled on a site where 21 hueys are on stock and another has 17 units on hand from a foreign military. I just can't find it.

So the time-frame being short? I believe the sellers are just waiting for us.  :roll:
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Re: Refurbished UH-1 (21 units)
« Reply #61 on: November 28, 2012, 09:37:36 AM »
Arguably companies like this have been watching developments on our end for some time now.

The following photos were shared on FB (name withheld for PERSEC) 7 seven hours ago. More birds are reportedly coming for the 205th. It is not clear if these are meant to be acquired as non-flying aircraft for use as spares for existing Hueys, or if they are going to be restored to flight status.

Photos taken at a Bell helicopter-approved service facility in the state of Washington, USA.












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Re: Refurbished UH-1 (21 units)
« Reply #62 on: November 29, 2012, 01:40:47 AM »
The hueys in the picture looks really old and kept in storage for quite a long time. Hope they did a good job putting it back together if this is one of the company bidding for the project.  :shock:

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Re: Refurbished UH-1 (21 units)
« Reply #63 on: December 01, 2012, 08:23:03 PM »
The hueys in the picture looks really old and kept in storage for quite a long time. Hope they did a good job putting it back together if this is one of the company bidding for the project.  :shock:

Of course they are old. The H version has been out of production for years. Once these parts are put together, they have to be recertified for flight before they are accepted.

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Re: Refurbished UH-1 (21 units)
« Reply #64 on: December 05, 2012, 10:34:03 AM »
Bidding for purchase of 21 helicopters fails


MANILA, Philippines - The bidding for the purchase of 21 UH-1 helicopters has been declared a failure after bidders fell short of satisfying some requirements, a defense official said yesterday.

Defense Undersecretary Fernando Manalo said the two firms that submitted offers had failed to meet certain eligibility requirements.

The opening of bids for the 21 helicopters was held last Tuesday at the Department of National Defense (DND) office in Camp Aguinaldo, Quezon City.

More on...http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2012/12/06/881391/bidding-purchase-21-helicopters-fails

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Re: Refurbished UH-1 (21 units)
« Reply #65 on: December 05, 2012, 01:07:50 PM »
Sorry for the OT. But do any of you have trouble opening links from Philstar? When I click on the link above, it opens the philstar site, but the contents/news report immediately goes blank and gets replaced by a Land Rover ads.

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Re: Refurbished UH-1 (21 units)
« Reply #66 on: December 05, 2012, 01:39:14 PM »
Sorry for the OT. But do any of you have trouble opening links from Philstar? When I click on the link above, it opens the philstar site, but the contents/news report immediately goes blank and gets replaced by a Land Rover ads.

I can open it having no trouble.

Here it's for your sake.

MANILA, Philippines - The bidding for the purchase of 21 UH-1 helicopters has been declared a failure after bidders fell short of satisfying some requirements, a defense official said yesterday.

Defense Undersecretary Fernando Manalo said the two firms that submitted offers had failed to meet certain eligibility requirements.

The opening of bids for the 21 helicopters was held last Tuesday at the Department of National Defense (DND) office in Camp Aguinaldo, Quezon City.

The government seeks to use the helicopters to meet the airlift requirements during the 2013 polls and to conduct disaster response operations.

Six companies bought bid documents but only two – Star Defense System/Radom Israel and Rise Aircraft Services Inc. – joined the bidding.

Manalo told The STAR among the issues tackled during the bidding is whether the bidders can deliver the helicopters by the end of February.

The Air Force previously recommended that the helicopters be delivered by Feb. 28, 2013 to meet the higher demand for airlift requirements during the  elections.

Manalo said the two firms could still ask the DND Bids and Awards Committee (BAC) to reconsider its decision to declare them ineligible to bid. If the companies submit motions for reconsideration, the BAC will tackle them in a meeting next week.

Another bidding may be held in the event that the BAC rejects the motion for reconsideration of the bidders.

Despite the failed bidding, Manalo gave assurance that efforts are being undertaken to fast-track the military’s upgrade efforts.

The UH-1 or Huey, which falls under the light lift category, is the primary helicopter of the Air Force.

The Air Force, then led by Lt. Gen. Oscar Rabena, made the request for additional Hueys in 2011.

The DND originally sought to acquire the 21 helicopters through negotiated procurement under emergency cases.

DND had asked the Government Procurement Policy Board (GPPB) to allow it to tap negotiated procurement under emergency in buying the helicopters, saying the state of the military’s inventory reflects “a large capability gap.”

The GPPB, however, said the acquisition should be done through public bidding, a longer process than negotiated procurement.

There are only 16 mission-capable Hueys in the Air Force inventory, 51 units short of the ideal number of operational combat utility helicopters.
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Re: Refurbished UH-1 (21 units)
« Reply #67 on: December 05, 2012, 07:25:24 PM »
what type of UH-1 ?
also me think why not try get 2nd hand AH-1 as bronco replacement ? :)

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Re: Refurbished UH-1 (21 units)
« Reply #68 on: December 05, 2012, 07:47:40 PM »
what type of UH-1 ?
also me think why not try get 2nd hand AH-1 as bronco replacement ? :)

Please backread the other posts next time. As your first time reminder, I'll make it easy for you. It's UH-1H and some UH-1H upgraded, probably to Huey II standard.

As for the AH-1 as Bronco replacement, the PAF is looking for a fast mover to replace the Bronco, although there is a separate project for light attack helicopters. If you don't know yet, there was a previous plan to get ex-Israeli AH-1s but did not push through, instead the PAF went for new but not a pure attack helicopter model.

For attack helicopter plans, go here: http://www.timawa.net/forum/index.php?topic=30775.0

For Bronco replacement, go here: http://www.timawa.net/forum/index.php?topic=26107.0

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Re: Refurbished UH-1 (21 units)
« Reply #69 on: December 05, 2012, 07:58:12 PM »
this is really frustrating.  pati ba naman pa-bid for almost patapon and pinaglumaang Huey nagfaifail pa rin?  Not meeting requirements na naman.. anong na naman kaya gusto ng DND at PAF sa Huey na yan?  Magperform na parang brand new? I wouldn't be surprised if no one will give a fraking damn participating in any bid with us. 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
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Re: Refurbished UH-1 (21 units)
« Reply #70 on: December 06, 2012, 01:19:36 AM »
I doubt if there is any company in the world that can deliver 21 huey helicopters in two months. Election or no election we still need more helicopters. The DND should have let it proceed and award the contract to the winning bidder.

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Re: Refurbished UH-1 (21 units)
« Reply #71 on: December 06, 2012, 04:50:56 PM »
this is really frustrating.  pati ba naman pa-bid for almost patapon and pinaglumaang Huey nagfaifail pa rin?  Not meeting requirements na naman.. anong na naman kaya gusto ng DND at PAF sa Huey na yan?  Magperform na parang brand new? I wouldn't be surprised if no one will give a fraking damn participating in any bid with us. 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
Maybe the DND put additional Requirement to the biders for the UH-1 Huey? Maybe They (DND) requires them to supply Huey HU-1 with BVR capability nanaman!!! Wahahahaha... Labo ng DND! LOL..

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Re: Refurbished UH-1 (21 units)
« Reply #72 on: December 06, 2012, 06:47:48 PM »
^ that's an out of line comment... not adding any substance to this thread.

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I doubt if there is any company in the world that can deliver 21 huey helicopters in two months. Election or no election we still need more helicopters. The DND should have let it proceed and award the contract to the winning bidder.

If (some of the posters) here had read the supplemental bid bulletin #3 or had listened to a recent PTV4 interview with Usec Manalo -- one of the most apprehension amongst the bidders is the delivery period.
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Re: Refurbished UH-1 (21 units)
« Reply #73 on: December 06, 2012, 07:58:15 PM »
@40, don't you think the DND intentionally made it hard for bidders to meet the delivery date to justify a G2G deal instead?

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Re: Refurbished UH-1 (21 units)
« Reply #74 on: December 06, 2012, 08:10:12 PM »
or why not just change that part of the bidding process, if it would be deemed impossible to deliver within that timeframe, why not change it to "who ever can promise to deliver this in the soonest possible time wins the bid" and add a clause "for every 1 week delay, we will get one of the UH-1s for free" to scare the shizzles out of those who can't walk the talk.
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