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Re: 6 more countries offer to sell warships to Philippines - DND
« Reply #255 on: March 17, 2013, 12:18:05 AM »
How do they come up with proposed budget for the project like the Philippine Navy Frigate? Don't they ever check first the cost of the same ships with our neighboring countries or our allies and average the cost before announcing a target price.

Said budget seems to fit only hull and propulsion system only, if intended for the entire Frigate itself are we looking at a ship with down graded electronics [or civi electronics for non combat system], armed with only 4 SSM [2x2] , 2 triple TL and CIWS.  MANPADs only for anti-air, i sure hope not.
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Re: 6 more countries offer to sell warships to Philippines - DND
« Reply #256 on: March 18, 2013, 08:47:59 PM »
The Korean defense attache and representatives from Daewoo visited the Philippine Navy to discuss matters pertaining to defense acquisition programs with Korea.

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10151380107782956.1073741828.190479452955&type=1




Daewoo produces the DW-3000H frigate offered recently to Thailand...

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Re: 6 more countries offer to sell warships to Philippines - DND
« Reply #257 on: March 19, 2013, 12:24:35 AM »
So it looks like Daewoo's order book has better slack over HHI and STX. Daewoo is task for the design and construction of the first of the ROKN's FFX-2 series.

Bangladesh BNS Bangabandhu (DW 2000-H) was also built by Daewoo and delivered in the 2001. 

Israel is also talking with Daewoo and Hyundai to build four 1,2-1,4T OPV hulls (including mechanical and electrical systems), while planning to fit and integrate them with their locally-developed sensors and weapons.
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Re: 6 more countries offer to sell warships to Philippines - DND
« Reply #258 on: March 19, 2013, 01:09:11 AM »
Daewoo DW-2000 H frigate.

Bangladesh BNS Bangabandhu.

Built by Daewoo of South Korea, the DW 2000 H is a multi-purpose anti-air, anti-surface, anti-submarine frigate derived from an existing fleet of Ulsan class ships that are in service with the Republic of Korea Navy. The frigate was ordered in 1999 years earlier and completed on schedule at a cost of $100 million. The DW 2000 displaces 2,370 tons and is fitted with a Thales command and control suite comprising a TACTICOS combat system, DA-08 surveillance radar, a Variant surface surveillance radar, a Mirador electro-optical tracking and fire control system and a LIROD Mk2 fire control radar.







cheaper than:
DW-3000 H
Thailand buy 2 units for 3.29 billion bath (equal to 500 million USD each)





Daewoo OPV for Israeli Navy HDP 1200
cost around 100 million USD each ( The four ship deal is expected to cost approximately $400M)





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Re: 6 more countries offer to sell warships to Philippines - DND
« Reply #259 on: March 19, 2013, 02:13:32 AM »
DSME (Daewoo Shipbuilding)'s order and naval build-book not only includes surface combatants, but also :
* submarines -- where it has existing order with ROKN and Indonesia;
* (UK) Royal Navy's four 37,000T Military Afloat Reach and Sustainability tankers (MARS);
* Peru's LPD / multi-role ships, plus will provide assistance on future builds and modernization of their naval shipyard.

http://www.dsme.co.kr/epub/business/business0108.do

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Re: 6 more countries offer to sell warships to Philippines - DND
« Reply #260 on: March 19, 2013, 02:46:38 AM »

Just an observation on the Sokor visit. -- Why only DSME?    How about ROK's largest shipbuilder, Hyundai-HHI, which has a shipyard in Subic, or STX?   

ROKN had divided its naval shipbuilding amongst their top naval shipbuilder, assigning builds to shipyards accordingly. 

Was DSME assigned for exports to the PHL, or it's just plain circumstantial -- and their top tier yards could still actually bid individually?
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Re: 6 more countries offer to sell warships to Philippines - DND
« Reply #261 on: March 19, 2013, 04:53:55 AM »
Just an observation on the Sokor visit. -- Why only DSME?    How about ROK's largest shipbuilder, Hyundai-HHI, which has a shipyard in Subic, or STX?   

ROKN had divided its naval shipbuilding amongst their top naval shipbuilder, assigning builds to shipyards accordingly. 

Was DSME assigned for exports to the PHL, or it's just plain circumstantial -- and their top tier yards could still actually bid individually?

Maybe we'll be seeing not just nation vs nation in the bidding, but we'll get bids from multiple companies per country. Probably Daewoo is more on taking the initiative on getting our feedback first.  :)
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Re: 6 more countries offer to sell warships to Philippines - DND
« Reply #262 on: March 21, 2013, 08:21:15 PM »
Has there been offer by India and Sweden to sell warships?

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Re: 6 more countries offer to sell warships to Philippines - DND
« Reply #263 on: March 21, 2013, 11:41:17 PM »
^ Try to google on India's ability to delivery warships (better yet defense projects) within schedule and within budget.  You'll be surprised and disappointed.  Also note that they still import most of their defense requirements; and in fact, was the top arms importer in 2007-11.


If you are specifically talking about the OPV/frigates, -- try to back read a few pages.  You'll find out on how we shelved second hand hulls.   It's no longer about what is being offered; but rather who would participate (or qualify) in the planned bidding.

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Re: 6 more countries offer to sell warships to Philippines - DND
« Reply #264 on: April 29, 2013, 06:44:45 PM »
PH buying 2 brand-new warships
By Marlon Ramos
Philippine Daily Inquirer
| April 30, 2013 at 12:20 am
The Philippines is getting two brand-new frigates as part of the modernization program of the Armed Forces of the Philippines, Defense Undersecretary Fernando Manalo said on Monday.

He told reporters that the Department of National Defense (DND) had earmarked P18 billion for the purchase of the two vessels through a public bidding. He said a number of countries, including South Korea, Spain and Singapore, would participate in the bidding.

Manalo also disclosed that the DND had been negotiating for a government-to-government acquisition of 12 jet fighters from South Korea.

He said the DND had decided to scrap previous plans to acquire refurbished frigates since secondhand vessels would be more costly to maintain. He said the DND had allocated P9 billion for each frigate, or fast warship.

“The purchase of the frigates has been in the pipeline,” Manalo said.  “We are just waiting for the Navy to submit their ‘decision package.’ After that, we will review it and issue an acquisition decision memorandum signed by (Defense) Secretary Voltaire Gazmin,” he said.

Manalo said the process could take a week. “After that, we’ll schedule one or two prebid conferences.”

“We originally wanted to buy secondhand frigates but then we realized that it would be expensive in the long run if we are going to buy secondhand,” he added.

He noted that older ships required more maintenance repairs compared to new vessels. He said the DND had previously approved P6 billion for each refurbished frigate.

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