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Re: Missiles on Navy Ships?
« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2010, 07:35:39 PM »
Finally found an article (incomplete though) about the missile armed boat of the Philippine Navy in the early '80s...

http://newspapers.nl.sg/Digitised/SearchResults.aspx?keyword=philippine%20navy%2C%20ferdinand%20marcos&lang=en

Marcos to launch gunboat [Articles]
The Straits Times, 22 June 1984, Page 3, AFP


Marcos to launch gunboat MANILA, Thurs. The Philippine navy's first missile-firing gunboat would be launched by President Ferdinand Marcos on Saturday, navy spokesmen said today. Designed and built by Filipino naval architects and engineers, the 44-m, 215-tonne vessel named after the first Philippine President Emilio Aguinaldo, would be equipped with ...

Anyone care to complete the article?
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Re: Missiles on Navy Ships?
« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2010, 08:20:27 PM »
Perhaps Timawans in Singapore can help.  :beer:
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Re: Missiles on Navy Ships?
« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2010, 08:51:29 PM »
Exocet perhaps?  But the launchers doesn't look like it would fit the stern of the PG-140

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Exocet_ITB.jpg



Argentine improvised shore-based launcher removed from the destroyer ARA Seguí used to hit HMS Glamorgan on 12 June 1982. Two MM38 Exocet missiles, their launchers, transporter, and the associated electronics trailer were assembled by Argentine Navy technicians lead by Captain (Engineer) Julio Perez at Puerto Belgrano and flown by two Hercules C-130 transports aircraft [1] to the Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas) on the night of June 1st as a mean to stop the British naval gun fire. A RASIT radar supplied by the Argentine Army was used to tracked HMS Glamorgan's movements. The system was nicknamed Instalacion de Tiro Berreta (ITB) ( something like Trash Firing system )

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Re: Missiles on Navy Ships?
« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2010, 08:56:59 PM »
From what i can recall it was the Blowpipe.

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Re: Missiles on Navy Ships?
« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2010, 10:52:54 PM »
Wikipedia lists the Philippine Navy as one of the operators (maybe former), of the Gabriel missile.  I'm not sure where the source came from or how reliable it is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel_missile

If the BRP Emilio Aguinaldo was to be armed with anti ship missiles, the Gabriel Missile would've have been an excellent choice due to it's compact launcher.  Up to four missiles could fit at the stern deck of the ship. 

The First picture is the BRP EMILIO AGUINALDO and the second picture is a 32 meter missile boat armed with 4 Gabriel Missiles.

(44 meters)



(32 meters)

 

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Re: Missiles on Navy Ships?
« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2010, 09:06:01 PM »
an artist concept of the missile boat


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Re: Missiles on Navy Ships?
« Reply #21 on: October 22, 2010, 10:43:01 PM »
kong lalagyan mo nang missile sa likod, magagalit sa iyo ang navy kasi wala na silang sampayan nang mga damit. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Missiles on Navy Ships?
« Reply #22 on: October 22, 2010, 11:12:18 PM »
MBLT6 mentioned before that part of the Marcos-era dabbling with rockets involved an anti-ship missile design put together by German engineers that were brought in.  Test rocket blew up after launch, I think, and that was the end of that project
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Re: Missiles on Navy Ships?
« Reply #23 on: October 23, 2010, 09:50:27 AM »
Around the same time, the navy was going to acquire PSMM-5 ships from Taiwan. These were to be equipped with Gabriel missiles hence the claim. The plan never pushed through and was overtaken by events.
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Re: Missiles on Navy Ships?
« Reply #24 on: October 23, 2010, 10:20:21 AM »
Then, in theory, the Aguinaldo can be fitted with theGabriel and the ensuing electronics since it was designed to do so?

Pwede pa ba yun, seeing the "modifications" done to the part of the ship that was designed to accomodate them?

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Re: Missiles on Navy Ships?
« Reply #25 on: October 23, 2010, 05:49:01 PM »
« Last Edit: October 23, 2010, 05:52:06 PM by Sabra »
…The Filipino, it seems, has lost his soul, his dignity, and his courage. We have come upon a phase of our history when ideals are only a veneer for greed and power, (in public and private affairs) when devotion to duty and dedication to a public trust are to be weighted at all times against private advantages and personal gain, and when loyalties can be traded. …Our government is in the iron grip of venality, its treasury is barren, its resources are wasted, its civil service is slothful and indifferent, its armed forces demoralized and its councils sterile., We are in crisis...

President Ferdinand Edralin Marcos

"Taking into account the disadvantages they have to fight against in terms of arms, equipment and military discipline, without artillery, short of ammunition, powder inferior, shells reloaded until they are defective, they are the bravest men I have ever seen...

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Re: Missiles on Navy Ships?
« Reply #26 on: October 23, 2010, 07:15:25 PM »
Is this an example of the PSMM-5?

http://defense-studies.blogspot.com/2009/05/psmm-mark-5-si-cepat-dari-negeri.html
No.  The one's we were interested in were based on the Asheville class of US gunboats and which were actually built by Taiwan.
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Re: Missiles on Navy Ships?
« Reply #27 on: October 25, 2010, 05:13:55 AM »
kong lalagyan mo nang missile sa likod, magagalit sa iyo ang navy kasi wala na silang sampayan nang mga damit. :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Re: Missiles on Navy Ships?
« Reply #28 on: November 09, 2010, 05:29:27 AM »
German made pa nga !

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Re: Missiles on Navy Ships?
« Reply #29 on: December 15, 2010, 12:47:42 AM »
German made pa nga !

The book I read some time ago had listed a "Cormorant" class of fast-attack craft, to be built by a shipyard in Spain. This was to have 4 MM.40 Exocet SSM. I'll have to see if I still have the book... It might have been an old edition of "Combat Fleets of the World" (Naval Institute)... The Aguinaldo class also was to have carried 4 SSM of unknown type, but was found to be underpowered...