Author Topic: Merged: L39 / L159 for the PAF  (Read 13806 times)

josebakal

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Re: Merged: L39 / L159 for the PAF
« Reply #45 on: May 28, 2008, 01:50:35 AM »
The "difficulty" might very well be in transition terms.

 
BTW..thats what I meant.:beer:

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Re: Merged: L39 / L159 for the PAF
« Reply #46 on: May 28, 2008, 03:31:24 AM »
How about changing the avionics like what the thais did?

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Re: Merged: L39 / L159 for the PAF
« Reply #47 on: May 29, 2008, 11:54:44 PM »
How about changing the avionics like what the thais did?

That might work. Not really sure if it would be cost effective though and can be delivered on time.

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Re: Merged: L39 / L159 for the PAF
« Reply #48 on: May 30, 2008, 12:04:51 AM »
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Re: Merged: L39 / L159 for the PAF
« Reply #49 on: May 30, 2008, 03:34:46 AM »
Yes, it's fully NATO standard aircraft. 36 were delivered in 90s. With Elbit avionic, you can equips them with AIM-9P, Mk. 82 bomb and rocket pod. Only gun pod is Czech standard but you can produces the round locally. It's a very good LIFT aircraft and everyone please with that, it's no question. But L-39ZA/ART still uses Czech engine and, when it's come to maintainance on the differenct architechture, it's always have something different. This is the first Soviet-Bloc aircraft in RTAF and RTAF lost 4 aircrafts in the first period of service until we can overcomed this issue and keep this type accidental free. RTAF lost 2 aircrafts in 1996 and 2 in 2000. (They buy 4 more to replace those aircrafts) I do not knows the real root cause but personally I thinks the maintaince issue on the unfamilar architechture during the first period of service might be one factor.

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Re: Merged: L39 / L159 for the PAF
« Reply #50 on: October 18, 2008, 12:35:26 AM »
I vote for that plane, it is much better than the S211. Just to boost up our weakened air defences. For me if we wait to the corrupt congress to give a big chunk of budget for the PAF well maybe that the time I got old.Basing on the  current situation of the Govt and some corrupt high ranking military official, this plane is ok than never. And besides it is a good training plane before going to high end planes.
  Are there movement or news that PAF will acquire this plane?

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Re: Merged: L39 / L159 for the PAF
« Reply #51 on: January 13, 2009, 12:21:55 AM »


http://www.raptoraviation.com/aircraft%20spec%20pages/L59s.html

model 1992 L59 (L39MS) 3 a/c available. $699K / Offer each  :? mura/pwede na ba sila?
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Re: Merged: L39 / L159 for the PAF
« Reply #52 on: May 21, 2010, 09:48:01 PM »
medyo late na pero ok pa din naman. the L-59 has a lotarev DV-2 engines, which is also produced in slokavia by PSLM. It was also developed to have an after burning version that powers the Hongdu JL-8 trainer. Aero Vodochody does modifications and repairs of the DV-2 engines. As I look at the airframe the wings are optimized for subsonic and near trans sonic speed only. I'm not an aeronautical engineer (I'm a Civil Engr with major in Fluid Mechanics) but I think a wing redesign is needed to (similar to the S-211 would do since a skyhawk delta would be too heavy already) improve performance and a all moving tailplane modification is a must in order for the plane to have control at trans sonic speed

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Re: Merged: L39 / L159 for the PAF
« Reply #53 on: March 22, 2012, 12:28:05 AM »
Philippines expressed interest in Czech L-159 training aircraft. Foreign Minister Karel Schwarzenberg said after a meeting with his Philippine counterpart, with the potential for sale are not yet any specific proposals.

Manufacturer L-159 Aero Vodochody for several years with the support of the State vainly trying to sell these aircraft. The company came during a meeting with Philippine Foreign Minister Alberto del Rosario.

http://defense-studies.blogspot.com/2012/03/aero-vodochody-would-like-to-sell-l-159.html
http://www.rozhlas.cz/zpravy/domaciekonomika/_zprava/aero-vodochody-by-chtelo-filipincum-prodat-cvicne-letouny-l159--1034234
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Re: Merged: L39 / L159 for the PAF
« Reply #54 on: March 22, 2012, 12:35:50 AM »
Obsolete weapons do not deter. You do not base a defence policy on someone else's good intentions.
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Re: Merged: L39 / L159 for the PAF
« Reply #55 on: March 22, 2012, 12:41:42 AM »
Wasn't it they are also offering the license to build. I believe this was mentioned in one of the threads before.
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Re: Merged: L39 / L159 for the PAF
« Reply #56 on: March 22, 2012, 09:46:00 AM »
Phalanx,

Your thread has been merged with an older L-159 thread, so your all-caps title post has been removed.

Please refrain from using all-caps moving forward.
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Re: Merged: L39 / L159 for the PAF
« Reply #57 on: March 22, 2012, 10:04:23 PM »
I have a Lotus L39 on my FSX....
Beautiful aircraft.... :afro:
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Re: Merged: L39 / L159 for the PAF
« Reply #58 on: March 26, 2012, 07:03:19 PM »
i'd rather not sell the L-159 short, just yet, stealth maverick. after all, we may have passed on the L-39s, but the Czechs did manage to sell over 2500 of the planes, many of which are still flying. as to being formerly communist block, we did get the Sokols from the Poles.... :)
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Re: Merged: L39 / L159 for the PAF
« Reply #59 on: March 27, 2012, 12:15:48 AM »
We really should do away with pampadulas mentality and grow up. What ever we purchase should be what is required by the service and within budget and not because of the freebie... there's no such thing as free.

Actually this isn't "pampadulas". The law actually encourages the government to look for incentives, such as technology transfers and the like.
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