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Next Up(grade), the MDH520s....etc..
« on: January 15, 2007, 11:24:22 PM »
Here's the next round of acquisitions being bidded out:
Amounts in million pesos

1.  40mm grenade launchers (160.6m)
2. EOD Bomb Suite (82.35m)
3. SAW (1,129.06m)
4. GPS receivers (hand held) 103.55m
5. 50MW (megawatt Personal Role Radios (520.9m)
6. MDH520MG Upgrade (224.00 M)
7. UH-1H Acquisition (400m)
8. Aerial Cameras (photo recon pod?) 62.85 m
9. PA Watercraft Project 109.42m
10. Truck, 1 and 1/4 ton Troop Carrier, 4x4 1,153.76

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Re: Next Up(grade), the MDH520s....etc..
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2007, 12:27:44 AM »
What are the specifics of the MD MG520 Attack helicopters? new engines? A FLIR maybe?

Hope they'd double the weapons load out for the birds, like two rocket pods and two 7.62 mm MMG or 50 cal HMG for each MG520.

 
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Re: Next Up(grade), the MDH520s....etc..
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2007, 12:31:21 AM »
Give these to our troops.

M32s retail for $6,000 each or


like those of the Malaysians, cost might be lower

PA Watercraft, locally built similar to this


SAW, get those Ultimaxes

$2,000 Ultimax vs $5,000 Minimi?

MDH520MG Upgrade - NVGs, Cameras and FLIRS for Night capabilities

http://www.imaging1.com/thermal/safire.html

UH1H Acquisition - maybe get those Aussie Hueys to be retired.


Trucks, Troop Carrier. locally made of these

http://timawa.net/forum/index.php?topic=4407.30
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Re: Next Up(grade), the MDH520s....etc..
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2007, 01:31:28 PM »
i have question, drum magazine lang po ba ang pwedeng gamitin na mag for ultimax, or pwede rin siyang belted ammunition?
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Re: Next Up(grade), the MDH520s....etc..
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2007, 02:00:11 PM »
to salbahi, i THink they can use a banana magazine on the ultimax

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RP to accept bids for US143M worth of military equipment
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2007, 04:45:31 AM »
   


MANILA -- The Philippines will start accepting bids in February for the supply of P7 billion (US$143.15 million; euro110.35 million) worth of equipment to modernize the country's military to fight terrorists and other enemies, President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo said Wednesday.

The acquisitions will be part of a P10 billion (US$204.5 million; euro157.64 million) procurement Arroyo earlier approved to modernize the armed forces, one of the most poorly-equipped in Asia.

The government has 15 items on its shopping list, including a multipurpose attack gunboat, automatic weapons, global positioning systems, aerial mapping cameras, night capable attack helicopters, bomb suits and radios.

"For the month of February, we are ready for the formal submission and opening of bids," Arroyo said in a statement. "I am confident that the notices to proceed will be issued by the middle of March 2007."

She said the items are in addition to the contracts approved last year to upgrade three patrol vessels, two patrol gunboats and two Britten Norman Islander aircraft worth P707 million (US$14.5 million; euro11.15 million).

The modernization program will "equip our soldiers with the military hardware necessary to sustain internal security operations, including AFP's anti-terrorism campaign, and address other nontraditional security threats," she said, referring to the Armed Forces of the Philippines. 
 
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Re: RP to accept bids for US143M worth of military equipment
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2007, 05:17:33 AM »
The 15 supply contracts that will be up for bids, according to a DND document, are the following:

1. Multi-purpose attack crafts (P145.44M)
2. Squad Automatic Weapons (P103.55M)
3. Global positioning system (GPS) devices (P103.55M)
4. Scout watercrafts for the Philippine Army (P70.90M)
5. 1 ¼-ton trucks (P1.53B)
6. A digital aerial digital camera (P62.85M)
7. Handheld radios (P400M)
8. Armored Personnel Carriers (P144M)
9. Night Flying System (NFS) for the Air Force and the Navy (Lot 1-2, P617.12M)
10. NFS for the Philippine Navy (Lot1-4, P326.50M)
11. Night capable attack helicopters (P1.21B)
12. 40MM grenade launchers (P160.60M)
13. Bomb suits (P82.35M)
14. Upgrade of MG 520 attack helicopters (P240M)
15. Engines, airframes, power trains, fuel cells, lighting systems, radio equipment, and other basic instruments for UH-1H helicopters (P400M)
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Re: RP to accept bids for US143M worth of military equipment
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2007, 09:11:11 AM »
The 15 supply contracts that will be up for bids, according to a DND document, are the following:

1. Multi-purpose attack crafts (P145.44M)
2. Squad Automatic Weapons (P103.55M)
3. Global positioning system (GPS) devices (P103.55M)
4. Scout watercrafts for the Philippine Army (P70.90M)
5. 1 ¼-ton trucks (P1.53B)
6. A digital aerial digital camera (P62.85M)
7. Handheld radios (P400M)
8. Armored Personnel Carriers (P144M)
9. Night Flying System (NFS) for the Air Force and the Navy (Lot 1-2, P617.12M)
10. NFS for the Philippine Navy (Lot1-4, P326.50M)
11. Night capable attack helicopters (P1.21B)
12. 40MM grenade launchers (P160.60M)
13. Bomb suits (P82.35M)
14. Upgrade of MG 520 attack helicopters (P240M)
15. Engines, airframes, power trains, fuel cells, lighting systems, radio equipment, and other basic instruments for UH-1H helicopters (P400M)


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Good effort though. Let's see estimated time of delivery. Is Gov. Garcia may na donate na.

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Re: RP to accept bids for US143M worth of military equipment
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2007, 10:19:23 AM »
I'm just curious how come that theres no bidding for new fighter plane.



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Re: RP to accept bids for US143M worth of military equipment
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2007, 10:35:36 AM »
I'm just curious how come that theres no bidding for new fighter plane.



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Blaz,

As I mentioned in previous posts, the AFP is focusing on acquiring equipment that are needed for the current battle. You do not need fighter planes to fight rebels. We are better off buying more transport and maritime patrol aircraft than fighters at this time. Happily, attack helicopters are part of the acquisition, so that'll give our boys the air support they need.

The AFP modernization program has been put on hold, and has been turned into a Capability Upgrade Program (CUP). Read the links I presented to you in previous threads -- where you asked the same question -- and you will understand.

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Re: RP to accept bids for US143M worth of military equipment
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2007, 11:04:17 AM »
I'm just curious how come that theres no bidding for new fighter plane.

Although fighter planes seems to be a must for any modern armed service, the AFP doesn't see any use for them now. Say we buy some of them to reactivate the 5th Fighter Wing, the planes would just be there lying on the tarmac with the pilots nothing to do, not contributing to the current war efforts of the AFP in destroying the terrorists and insurgents. In short, the AFP has more important things to be done urgently than fly fighters. 
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Re: RP to accept bids for US143M worth of military equipment
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2007, 11:29:42 AM »
Hello i'm new here and it's my first time in a military forum.

I'm also curious why the item #5 in the DND document reached the amount of Php 1,530,000,000.xx?

5. 1 ¼-ton trucks (P1.53B)

And what could be that specific military truck? Could be the M-1008 CUCV 4X4, M-561 Gama Goat 6X6, M-715 Kaiser 4X4, M-998 humvee HMMWV, etc..

I'm just curious coz by doing simple math and some assumptions, say:

1.53B budget=   70% or 1.071B for the actual units purchased
                      + 30% or 459M for aftersales packages, spare parts, etc..

If we assume that one (1) refurbished truck costs around 1.5M, then would it be a bit suspicious and unbelievable that the AFP is buying more than 700 trucks? If my calculation is near the accurate, then that would be a feat in the entire AFP history!

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Re: RP to accept bids for US143M worth of military equipment
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2007, 11:35:52 AM »
How many night flying helicopter does AFP want to buy?


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Re: RP to accept bids for US143M worth of military equipment
« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2007, 11:39:57 AM »
Hello i'm new here and it's my first time in a military forum.

I'm also curious why the item #5 in the DND document reached the amount of Php 1,530,000,000.xx?

5. 1 ¼-ton trucks (P1.53B)

And what could be that specific military truck? Could be the M-1008 CUCV 4X4, M-561 Gama Goat 6X6, M-715 Kaiser 4X4, M-998 humvee HMMWV, etc..

I'm just curious coz by doing simple math and some assumptions, say:

1.53B budget=   70% or 1.071B for the actual units purchased
                      + 30% or 459M for aftersales packages, spare parts, etc..

If we assume that one (1) refurbished truck costs around 1.5M, then would it be a bit suspicious and unbelievable that the AFP is buying more than 700 trucks? If my calculation is near the accurate, then that would be a feat in the entire AFP history!


Hi there baby eagle! That's very receptive too. Luck us you're there to do the math. Even if the refurbished trucks cost more than or double P1.5M, say P3M each, that would still be a lot of trucks! Unless the AFP is looking for new trucks and not refurbished. Something is fishy :bash:
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Re: RP to accept bids for US143M worth of military equipment
« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2007, 11:42:50 AM »
If we assume that one (1) refurbished truck costs around 1.5M, then would it be a bit suspicious and unbelievable that the AFP is buying more than 700 trucks? If my calculation is near the accurate, then that would be a feat in the entire AFP history!

Hi Baby Eagle,

Welcome to the forum. The source document for the information can actually be found on the DND Web site.

http://www.dnd.gov.ph/DNDWEBPAGE_files/DNDBAC/ITB/DND%20Troop%20Carrier.pdf

The plan is to purchase 671 trucks. So your estimate is pretty close to the mark.

Apparently one of the issues that the Capability Upgrade Program intends to address is troop mobility.
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