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Re: Helicopters: Cost of ownership
« Reply #30 on: July 03, 2007, 01:13:36 PM »
How about the US Sea Knight, which are being retired for the V-22 Osprey? Or the Kiowa Warrior?

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Re: Helicopters: Cost of ownership
« Reply #31 on: July 03, 2007, 02:36:31 PM »
How about the US Sea Knight, which are being retired for the V-22 Osprey? Or the Kiowa Warrior?

If you can help us find flight-per-hour figures for those helicopters, that would be most appreciated.  :beer:
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Re: Helicopters: Cost of ownership
« Reply #32 on: September 30, 2007, 09:42:30 AM »
Credit where credit is due. Thanks Cygnus.  :beer:

1999 PAF Operating Cost: [per hour]

Helicopter:

MG.520                                    Php  21,431
S-70A Blackhawk                     Php  38,894
S-76 Sikorsky                           Php  34,239
UH-1H Huey                             Php  27,776
UH-1N / Bell 412                      Php 31,094


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Re: Helicopters: Cost of ownership
« Reply #33 on: October 15, 2007, 03:36:10 PM »
Updated with R-22 information.  :pirate:
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Re: Helicopters: Cost of ownership
« Reply #34 on: September 10, 2008, 01:39:28 AM »
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Heavy-lift helicopters

CH-53E Super Stallion: $20,000 per flight hour [5]



Attack helicopters

AH-64 Apache: $3,851 per flight hour [9]/quote]
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Re: Helicopters: Cost of ownership
« Reply #35 on: April 10, 2009, 06:56:01 PM »
Here are some updates of operational costs for current PAF air assets. Got this from our AGOS class which was concluded last 13 March 09. What is indicated here is the total cost per hour (maintenance cost per hour + fuel cost per hour):

MG-520 Defender - PhP 42,669.64
OV-10 Bronco - 143,315.37
SF-260TP Warrior - 57,205.87
C-130 Hercules - 333,895.03
UH-1H Huey - 60,129.21
RF-27 Fokker - 151,985.98
N-22 Nomad - 99,040.06
S-211 - 153,941.60
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Re: Helicopters: Cost of ownership
« Reply #36 on: April 10, 2009, 07:18:45 PM »
Here are some updates of operational costs for current PAF air assets. Got this from our AGOS class which was concluded last 13 March 09. What is indicated here is the total cost per hour (maintenance cost per hour + fuel cost per hour):

MG-520 Defender - PhP 42,669.64
OV-10 Bronco - 143,315.37
SF-260TP Warrior - 57,205.87
C-130 Hercules - 333,895.03
UH-1H Huey - 60,129.21
RF-27 Fokker - 151,985.98
N-22 Nomad - 99,040.06
S-211 - 153,941.60

Thanks Ian.  :beer:
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Re: Helicopters: Cost of ownership
« Reply #37 on: June 14, 2009, 08:08:26 PM »
Son Of Huey Goes To War

http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htairfo/articles/20090613.aspx

June 13, 2009: The Mexican Air Force is buying another Bell 412 helicopter, in addition to the four they already have. The 412s will be used for counter-drug operations. In effect, the Mexican 412s will be used as combat helicopters. This is not the first time this has been done. Canada recently sent several of its 412s (called CH-146) to Afghanistan, to serve as armed escorts for its CH-47 transports.
The Bell 412 is an updated version of the Bell 212, which is a civilian version of the 1960s era U.S. Army UH-1 ("Huey"). The 5.3 ton 412s normally carry twelve passengers, and no weapons. But such helicopters can be equipped with machine-guns and rockets. The CH-146s were   so equipped, along with sensors that will make it easier to operate at night and in bad weather.

Mexico already has some Bell 212s and Mi-17s for use as transports. The Mexican 412s will cost about $10 million each (including spares and maintenance support). Nearly 900 412s have been produced since 1981. There are about 40 nations using the 412 for military service.

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Re: Helicopters: Cost of ownership
« Reply #38 on: June 19, 2009, 03:20:46 AM »
Cheap With A French Accent

http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htproc/articles/20090619.aspx

June 19, 2009: India has sold two of their Chetak and one Cheetah helicopters to Namibia, for a total price of $10 million. The Chetak is a license built (and improved) version of the French Alouette III. It is a 2.1 ton helicopter that seats seven. It can be armed with a machine-gun and rockets. Max speed is 210 kilometers an hour. Endurance is 2.5 hours and range is 290 kilometers.
The Cheetah is a license built version of the French Alouette II. It's a 1.6 ton helicopter that seats four, has a max speed of 185 kilometers an hour and range of 565 kilometers. Endurance is six hours.

So far, India has produced 350 Chetaks and 250 Cheetahs, mostly for internal use. India is trying to export more military equipment, and is competing mainly on price.



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Re: Helicopters: Cost of ownership
« Reply #39 on: June 19, 2009, 03:26:27 AM »
Tigers Follow Apaches

http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htairfo/articles/20090617.aspx

June 17, 2009: France is sending three Tiger helicopter gunships to Afghanistan, to join the Gazelle and Cougar helicopters already there. Last year, Gazelle reconnaissance helicopters were sent to Afghanistan, as well as EC 725 Cougar transport choppers. The 1.8 ton Gazelle is similar to the U.S. OH-58. The 11 ton EC 725 is similar to the U.S. UH-60. The nations that have been fighting in Afghanistan the longest (the U.S., Britain, Canada, Australia), are enthusiastic users of UAVs and helicopters to scout routes in areas where the Taliban may be active, or even if there are no Taliban believed to be around. That's because banditry is a popular outdoor sport in Afghanistan, and anyone not from your tribe is considered fair game. France quickly caught on to this, and kept sending more helicopters. It was also noted that the U.S. AH-64 helicopter gunship was also very useful, thus the request that Tiger helicopters be sent as well.
The six ton Tiger has a crew of two and a max speed of 280 kilometers an hour. It cruises at 230 kilometers an hour, usually stays in the air about three hours per sortie. It is armed with a 30mm automatic cannon, 70mm rocket pods (19 rockets per pod) and various types of air-to-ground missiles (eight Hellfire type missiles can be carried). It can also carry four Mistral anti-aircraft missiles.

Development of Tiger began in 1987, before the Cold War ended, and only began entering service six years ago. The Tiger costs about as much as the AH-64 Apache (about $45 million each), and was developed to emulate the success of the Apache (which entered service in 1984).

 France has bought 80 Tigers, Spain 24 and Australia 22. The eight ton AH-64 has been in service for 25 years, and nearly 1,100 have been built so far. Several nations are using AH-64s in Afghanistan, with great success. France has 2,800 troops in Afghanistan, and is sending more.

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Re: Helicopters: Cost of ownership
« Reply #40 on: February 07, 2010, 01:14:16 AM »
hello mga sir.  Any figures on the Sokol W-3A (unit cost and operating cost)?

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Re: Helicopters: Cost of ownership
« Reply #41 on: May 05, 2011, 05:29:00 AM »

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Re: Helicopters: Cost of ownership
« Reply #42 on: May 05, 2011, 11:57:08 AM »
EE-T4 Ogum RECCON VEHICLE
 


The EE-T4 Reccon Vehicle is a brilliant vehicle. Quick, light armored and have it armed with a RCWS equipted with a 0.50 cal HMG and 40mm AGL combo i'm ganna be happy with it. Better yet install a 20-25mm RCWS with a co-axial 7.62mm MG to it, Hell… just perfect for the Philippine Army.

Weisel is cute but the EE-T4, makes you go Wow!!! Send a pack of them and they could drive fast and deep into the Philippine Jungle and we could clear the rebels alot sooner. Hopefully the GA or PA R&D looks into this vehicle and craft our own version of the EE-T4, calling our version "Daga" would be fitting.

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Re: Helicopters: Cost of ownership
« Reply #43 on: May 05, 2011, 03:42:59 PM »
    Thanks for the info sir A-C atlast, nalaman ko na ang kasagutan, at ng dahil dito ay hindi nagkamali ng pagpasya ang ating Air Force ng piliin nila ang Polish Tech na ito.  :thumbsup: