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The Adjutant's trot
« on: August 05, 2007, 06:10:46 AM »
Has anyone else here had to do this . . . back in the day?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZBSpHk5ClA
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Re: The Adjutant's trot
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2007, 08:33:23 AM »
Has anyone else here had to do this . . . back in the day?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZBSpHk5ClA

Nope not me, I was S4.  Our trotting ROTC S1/Adjutant then is now an Army Major fox holed somewhere in Mindanao. 

Nice video btw, those are PMAs right?

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Re: The Adjutant's trot
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2007, 12:17:32 PM »
Nice video btw, those are PMAs right?

Roger that.

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Re: The Adjutant's trot
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2007, 01:19:43 PM »
Here's another one. Regular US army this time. Napagod ata bandang huli

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FaD99hkCko
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Re: The Adjutant's trot
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2007, 04:45:56 PM »
Here's another one. Regular US army this time. Napagod ata bandang huli

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FaD99hkCko

 :lol: Oo, nga.

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Re: The Adjutant's trot
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2007, 09:19:50 PM »
hehhe this is one of my favorite ...
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Re: The Adjutant's trot
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2007, 09:40:04 PM »
  :thumbsup: it sure brought back memories from the good old days;
COD, brigade formation, evening parade,.....   :twisted: presentation of sponsors.

i was N3 and missed the opportunity to strut the trot, but the second video reminded me of our N1.
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Re: The Adjutant's trot
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2007, 10:07:02 PM »
Hahahaha. Many were aspiring to be one, but only a few are chosen. I remember during my CAT days we did have one adjutant. One of our snappiest and smartest in uniform. Medyo idol pa ng COCC class namin. He does the adjustant walk as if the movement only happens from the knees down. Saw him  a couple of years ago in a homecoming. He's now a professor at UST.
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Re: The Adjutant's trot
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2007, 10:48:31 PM »
was an S1 adj during my CAT, nadapa ako kasi may butas sa field namin hinukay ng aso di ko nakita buti na lang hindi presentation of sponsor or tac-ins.. regular days lang.. LOL..
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Re: The Adjutant's trot
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2007, 11:24:07 AM »
did that...got perfect on that one for our regional tactical inspection in the region 7..wow...brings back memories..

"makinig sa mga kautusan! ang mga nakatalaga ngayon..pinunong tagamalaga, kadete
kapitan prokotoy...sa utus ni kadete kolonel bolantoy...nilagdaan ni kadete magat kurantoy...tagabadya ng mga kuutusan at kapulungan.." kalimutan ko na ang iba....

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Re: The Adjutant's trot
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2007, 12:09:10 PM »
pinunong tagamalaga, kadete
kapitan prokotoy...sa utus ni kadete kolonel bolantoy...nilagdaan ni kadete magat kurantoy...tagabadya ng mga kuutusan at kapulungan.." kalimutan ko na ang iba....

I noticed that you used "kolonel".

AFAIK, "Kalakan" is the appropriate substitute for the rank of Colonel in the Adjutant's call . . . by the same token that "magat" is the substitute for Captain.

This is not to say that I haven't heard other units use "Kolonel" as well. Its as common a . . . practice . . . as pronouncing "cadence" as "kah-dins". Most ROTC training staff (not the cadets) simply don't know about this -- or quite simply don't care to get it right.

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The history of those terms "Kalakan", and "Magat" are unclear however. Here are other rank equivalents:

Colonel -> Kalakan
Lieutenant colonel -> Lakan
Major -> Himagat
Captain -> Magat
First Lieutenant -> Pulimagat
Second Lieutenant -> Kamagat

Source:

Social Usage and Protocol 3rd Edition by BGEN Roman T. Gavino, BGEN Angel P Legaspi, Col Antonio M. Gonzales, Col Domingo A Alcasid, and Maj Roberto T Yap-Diangco.

Used in: http://adroth.ph/Corps/ranks.htm

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Re: The Adjutant's trot
« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2007, 12:59:42 PM »
AFAICR...that was what were using.  I am not really sure what FM they were following...that was way back in 94-95...i even remember using english commands then because someone from high up RCDG thought it was nice to use english commands (attention...to orders..parade dress [kahit mabaliko-baliko ang dila])...
base on my memory...we were using:
colonel=kolonel
lt. col = tinyente kolonel
major = magat
captain = kapitan
1LT = unang tinyente
2LT = pangalawang tinyente

 (|;) i just did what they told me then...follow now..ask questions later...peace!

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Re: The Adjutant's trot
« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2007, 01:12:39 PM »
(|;) i just did what they told me then...follow now..ask questions later...peace!

Please don't get me wrong. No fingers were pointed at you. Like I said in my post, even the AFP personnel handling ROTC units don't know this stuff. Just a reflection of how little preparation commandants and NCOs are given prior to assignment to ROTC units. Its essentially their job to get all of this right -- and they are unable to.

I would have made the same mistake during my time (School year '90-'91), if we didn't attribute our orders to the commandant and attributed them instead to the corps commander. My unit's line when it came to publishing the orders was:

" . . . sa utos ng kumandante . . ."

Beyond "magat" and "pulimagat", we didn't know about it the proper ranks till after we completed our stint.

Just sharing this stuff so that cadets who see this . . . get it right when its their turn to do the trot.

Peace sir.  :beer:

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i even remember using english commands then because someone from high up RCDG thought it was nice to use english commands (attention...to orders..parade dress [kahit mabaliko-baliko ang dila])

Sigh . . . commander's prerogative.  :eyes:

Does wonders to standardized drill regulations.
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Re: The Adjutant's trot
« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2007, 09:47:29 PM »
hey, no offense taken.  I totally understand your point.  we were also as confused and frustrated...i even remember our corps commander shouting some command that never existed during a rehearsal but the commandant never noticed it probably because 1.) he didn't care 2.) he  don't even know whats supposed to be the right one... (|8| 

one time i took some tapes of pma parades to our officer meetings and we studied and listed the commands (considering that they are the academy and they used the official commands) but the people above insisted on what they have with sources unknown. oh well... :(

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Re: The Adjutant's trot
« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2007, 08:50:17 AM »
I've never found anyone who could give a satisfactory explanation. Everyone had his opinion about "the right way to do it". Back in the day, all I had to go on were the adjutants that I saw and just tried to imitate (no videos back in the day, so I have no idea how goofy I looked).

One of the great things about that YouTube video is that we actually have some kind of a reference point for discussion.

What makes a good "trot" (or gallop . . . or strut . . . as some references describe it)?

Here's one description:

http://www.berlin-brigade.de/honor/honor4.html

The Adjutant's Strut: It is the Adjutant's job to instruct the formation to "Guide on Line", a process that brings troops up to the final formation line. This is relatively harmless task without a great deal of pomp. On the other hand, the other function of the Adjutant is to instruct the band to perform "Adjutant's Call" and to march in a hurried, extreme manner, almost a run/trot but not quite, sidearm flopping around in its holster, in an effort to make it to his position in front of the entire formation before the music stopped.
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