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MOKONG

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Re: Merged: New US bases in the Philippines
« Reply #105 on: October 05, 2013, 08:37:51 AM »
What about the People of Palawan's appreciation of defense of their island? 

On another note, I'd like to know what the US would like to bring to the table in exchange for IRP in the light of the Government Shutdown.

How much is presence in the Philippine worth?  Is the Philippines going to benefit from this?

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Re: Merged: New US bases in the Philippines
« Reply #106 on: October 06, 2013, 03:16:32 AM »
Navy begins developing Oyster Bay into mini Subic; mum on US pivot
By Redempto D. Anda
Inquirer Southern Luzon
3:41 am | Sunday, October 6th, 2013

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There has been an initial P500 million released to complete some major infrastructure components, including a 12-kilometer access road from the mainland.

“We call this a capability upgrade,” said Commodore Joseph Rostum Peña, commander of Naval Forces West (Navforwest).

Once completed, the facility would have an extended wharf to accommodate “at least four large naval vessels,” he said.

Armando Lustre, head of Lustre Construction that won a Department of Public Works and Highways (DPWH)-administered contract to complete the 12-km road from the village of Macarascas to Oyster Bay, said they had begun the road work and were expecting additional funding for the third and final phase of the road development plan for the area.

Peña likened the Oyster Bay facility to “a mini Subic” once completed. Like the former US naval facility in Zambales, the bay has  physical characteristics that can host large warships.

“It is also ideal as a base for our Marines. It has vast jungles suitable for training,” Peña said.

Around 10 years ago when the Philippine Navy began developing Oyster Bay and its naval reservation, all the villages around it rejected the facility, expressing this in a referendum conducted by the city government.

But Jane Villarin, a village council representive of Macarascas which hosts the newly transferred Navforwest headquarters believes the objections had been assuaged.

“I don’t think the community will resist the development of the naval base … we are used to them now,” she said.

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Re: Merged: New US bases in the Philippines
« Reply #107 on: October 06, 2013, 07:06:09 PM »
How much is presence in the Philippine worth?  Is the Philippines going to benefit from this?

DF-21!

It would be asking too much if we have a similar arrangement as home-porting four DDGs in Rota, Spain :) -- but having a BMD-capable DDG/CG once-in-a-month (as in semi-permanently) sailing from Japan to Guam via Subic or Cebu or having Passex with the del Pilars would be a starter.   :wink:
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Re: Merged: New US bases in the Philippines
« Reply #108 on: October 06, 2013, 10:51:45 PM »
Aside from military perspective;

the base will open economic opportunities for the surrounding communities. Warships needs clean potable water, fuel, small repairs, water treatment of waste water, fresh fruits, basic commodities, billeting and so on.But I dont recommend sleazy and sex -oriented entertainment . They can put sports facilities for the troops to break monotony life aboard on ships.

This economic opportunities will also cater to the base personnel and their families.
So opposing this base is just simply singing for the other side or just near -sighted or both.

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Re: Merged: New US bases in the Philippines
« Reply #109 on: October 07, 2013, 12:30:26 AM »
We should not brand current developments in Oyster Bay as part of plans to build a new US Base in the country. It will just invite more detractors and opposition from legal front groups of the CPP/NPA/NDFP like PAMALAKAYA and more speculation from the public. It is clearly a Philippine Naval Base that would likely constitute deployment of the PN's current and future frigates that will patrol the West Philippine Sea. Let us rightly promote it to the public, as a serious response by our own Philippine Navy to enhance its bases and patrol capabilities in the West Philippine Sea. It is not a US Naval Base. Any deployment by US naval vessels and personnel should be temporary and in accordance with the VFA and its amendments and in connection with the annual GPH-US CARAT and BALIKATAN military exercises.